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Big Hillary Clinton Win in NY Could Cost GOP House
NewsMax.com ^ | April 21, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/22/2006 5:02:11 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

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To: jalisco555
Any specifics as to who is in danger exactly? My Congressman, Jim Walsh (Syracuse and surrounding area) will sail to reelection. I'm not sure he even has a Democratic opponent.

According to Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, these are the House Republicans in New York who are vulnerable in a Hillary landslide:

John Sweenney, 20th District

Sherwood Boehlert, 24th District

Randy Kuhl, 29th District

Tom Reynolds, 26th District

James Walsh, 25th District

Sue Kelly, 19th District

Emanuel quote: "Hillary Clinton and Eliot Spitzer are get-out-the-vote magnets for the Democrats."

Normally, I'd be willing to dismiss Emanuel's prediction as the latest blather by a Dem apparachik that never seems to pan out.

But this time, the math is irrefutable. There's simply no way that a big NY landslide for Hillary can be good for the above incumbents.

Perhaps some of the skeptics here would like to explain how a Hillary coronation in NY won't have consequences for the national GOP - but I just don't see it.

There's simply no excuse for Republicans/conservatives to throw in the towel in the Hillary race at this early date (which is what most are doing). And it's a fair bet that they will pay the price for continuing in that direction by forfeiting not just New York - but the entire House, the crown jewel of the GOP revolution.

Hello impeachment, goodbye George Bush.

For more info, go to: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aEz86vr2oxvc&refer=us

21 posted on 04/22/2006 6:54:14 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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To: proudpapa
You are absolutely correct. At most the dem's pick off two house seats in NY.

Only two seats? That's all right then.

Let's see, Tom DeLay gave up his House seat to save just that ONE seat for the GOP - because saving the House is so critically important.

But we can afford to piss away two seats in NY.

Thanks, I feel better now. Maybe all we NY Republicans should just vote for Hillary in '06, since it won't make a lick of difference in any other race and she's gonna win anyway.

22 posted on 04/22/2006 7:04:01 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Boehlert is retiring so his seat is now an open one. I don't know which way it will go. There's no way that Walsh will go down. I can't comment on the others.


23 posted on 04/22/2006 7:05:08 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: manwiththehands
This is frustrating. It's like the entire Republican party isn't standing up for much of anything. It's a bad habit they picked up from the President.

I don't think I've ever seen a poster on this forum as consistently negative as you.

You never have anything positive to say.

Your mother was a troll, and your father smells of elderberries.

24 posted on 04/22/2006 7:33:48 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: georgia2006

I agree. I think News Max is BS too.


25 posted on 04/22/2006 8:07:25 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Dog Gone
My father actually does smell of elderberries, but leave my mother out of this.

Personal attacks aside, if you don't want negative opinions, make more positive posts.

26 posted on 04/22/2006 8:14:12 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: fieldmarshaldj; neverdem; Mia T; cloud8; NYCConservative; new yorker 77

New York bad news ping


27 posted on 04/22/2006 8:18:48 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

By the way, Boehlert has formally announced his retirement. The GOP nominee will be Ray Meier, a atate senator. The district has a significant GOP registration edge, and Meier should have a well-funded campaign. His likely Dem opponent is a district attorney from one of the counties in the district. A serious opponent, but even so, all things considered, I'd say it's very likely Meier will hold the seat for the GOP.


28 posted on 04/22/2006 8:34:26 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Of those on Rahm Emanuel's hit list, only Reynolds and Kuhl had fairly close victories the last time around (and both were around 55-45, not cliffhangers). Of course a lot depends on who the challengers are.

If the 'Rats do capture the House, they might be able to push through impeachment if they can enforce rigid party discipline (and maybe pick up a RINO or two), but it's highly unlikely they could come close to a conviction in the Senate (that would require a lot of Republican senators to vote against Bush). The goal might be just to get a higher number of senators to vote for conviction than voted to convict Clinton...it's mainly about payback (and weakening the President).

29 posted on 04/22/2006 8:35:06 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: goldstategop

And .. I suppose that means that "we deserve" the same.

This logic escapes me. How does punishing the GOP HELP US ..??

Do people really want the Clinton MESS back in the WH ..?? or in the halls of Congress ..??


30 posted on 04/22/2006 8:37:04 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: mewzilla

The GOP should spend in NY, including in the city, because that's the only way to build up a base. As long as the GOP writes us off, we'll continue to write them off. You have to campaign if you want to win -- now or in the future.


31 posted on 04/22/2006 9:29:37 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Could, may, might, maybe etc. Bah.


32 posted on 04/22/2006 9:31:44 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
There's simply no excuse for Republicans/conservatives to throw in the towel in the Hillary race at this early date (which is what most are doing). And it's a fair bet that they will pay the price for continuing in that direction by forfeiting not just New York - but the entire House, the crown jewel of the GOP revolution.

I strongly agree that the GOP should not throw in the towel in the Hillary race.

That said, most of Hillary's support in 2000 was concentrated in a few urban areas.

It's that kind of lack of support that won't produce any coattail effect in the congressional races in 2006.

33 posted on 04/22/2006 9:44:57 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Dick Morris? Is that you? And what have you done with carl?


34 posted on 04/22/2006 9:47:30 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: manwiththehands
The handwriting was on the wall when they shut down Pirro (a great DA, OK, but an ineffectual wimp-loser on the hustings) and came up with another candidate who is even more useless, if that's possible.

All the while of course, ignoring Spencer, who was just as capable of losing, but who would have torn huge bloody chunks off Hillary's ugly posterior in the process.

Need somebody with the nerve to run a tabloid campaign, to revive Vince Foster, the Rape, etc.,etc., and harshly point out Hillary's role in each sordid affair. O course, this being New York, Hillary might still win, but that would wake up the rest of the country, who are not as stupid (Sorry, meant to say ugly and loud) as downstate New Yorkers. Of course, if even those urban losers didn't turn up as expected, there is always vote fraud.

35 posted on 04/22/2006 10:12:39 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Any legal immigrant who wants to join me as an American, is welcome.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; ...
According to Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, these are the House Republicans in New York who are vulnerable in a Hillary landslide:

John Sweenney, 20th District With 533 of 629 precincts, or 85 percent, reporting Sweeney had 155,086 votes, or 66 percent.

Kelly had 74,610 votes, representing 33 percent, according to The Associated Press.

Sherwood Boehlert, 24th District good riddance

Randy Kuhl, 29th District NY-29: Randy Khul is a freshman Republican who underperformed Bush in his district by only winning by a 51-41 margin with the rest going to third party candidates. Democrats have popular Fighting Dem. Eric Massa running. The district voted 56-42 for GWB in 2004. It is the most Republican district in NY but still not that Republican and a good Dem. like Massa can beat Kuhl. lefty site

Tom Reynolds, 26th District 55.6% in 2004 dailykos.com

James Walsh, 25th District Walsh, James T. Combined Parties: 189,063 90.39% of the vote.

Sue Kelly, 19th District Kelly, Sue W. Combined Parties: 175,401 66.74% of the vote.

The last 2 links come from the federal election results in 2004, pdf format. If you want to listen to Rahm Emanuel, there's a bridge I want to sell you.

Bloomberg Reveals a Rifle in His Past

2 Democrats Seeking Attorney General Nomination Spar Over a 'Pact' (NY)

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

36 posted on 04/22/2006 10:45:10 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I agree. The Boelhert seat is the one to watch. I don't see Sweeney (sp) going down.


37 posted on 04/22/2006 10:52:15 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Carl/NewsMax

This is rat wishful thinking. The numbers will simply NOT stay that big. A high school kid knows that. She is NOT well liked and neither is spitzer. Reagan was, Bush was ( at election time) and neither had long coat tails.


38 posted on 04/22/2006 11:32:35 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

39 posted on 04/22/2006 12:16:10 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: SheLion

BWHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Great pic!


40 posted on 04/22/2006 2:06:56 PM PDT by DemforBush
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