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To: freema; blogblogginaway

Does Marc Rich do any trading in gold unranium or yellowcake? His business is comodities, yes?

He owes a big debt of gratitude to the Clintonista's.

And it would only be ironic justice that they would use Rich's $$$ to captpure Libby in an indictment sweep.


1,205 posted on 04/21/2006 9:01:34 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Time to walk the dog one last time and hit the hay.

Have to catch NPR's Saturday morning show for the latest. lol

Pinz


1,208 posted on 04/21/2006 9:02:46 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez; blogblogginaway

I dunno, and my eyes are a thousand pounds. But this is one of those things that make ya go "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

Last post of the day for me. I'll be back in the am, with a full pot of coffee. Who's bringing the 'danish'?


1,228 posted on 04/21/2006 9:17:36 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

"Does Marc Rich do any trading in gold unranium or yellowcake? His business is comodities, yes? "

Good question. I'm also wondering about Soros - -I don't trust him farther than I can throw him. And, while, as you said, Rich owes a lot to the Clintonistas, Kerry and others in the Dims circle owe a lot to Soros and the $$$$s he gave to those who bashed Bush, including himself. As does Mary McCarthy, he also had some connections to Weasley Clark and Maddie Allbright. And, according to the article below, apparently had at least a 1-time connection to Rich and some other shady investors in Europe:

George Soros and the Rothschilds Connection
By Jan Von Helsing ("Secret Societies and their Power in the 20th Century")

The now 64 year old Hungarian with a U.S. passport is the superstar amidst the great speculators. When the last "Forbes" list of the best paid managers and financiers was published, Soros was in the lead by a huge margin. In the last year he earned 550 million US$, twenty times as much as the Disney Boss. When Soros opens the hunt, the international money markets get moving and the reserve banks start worrying.

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He himself likes to be openly known as the man who wants to influence the big money markets of the world. This is a very unusual stance for an investor to take, who should rather be interested in using situations unobservantly that the competitors have not yet discovered. In March 1993, Soros' activities became known when he predicted a rise in the price of gold. It is assumed --since this started a buying spree in precious metals --that this drove the price up 20% over the highest price since the Gulf War. In the beginning of June 1993, he wrote an open letter to the business editor of the London Times, Anatole Kaletsky, announcing that he intented to urge the money markets to sell large amounts of German
government bonds in favor of French stocks. Which means: Down with the German mark and attack on the Bundesbank!

>snip

From this fund the "Quantum Group" evolved, a family of investment funds operating from the Dutch West Indies. Quantum is one of the most impressive "investment machines" in the world. In 8 of the last 24 years it made an "official" profit of over 50%, in 2 of those years even over 100%. In the meantime Soros handed business over to a group of managers and limits himself to designing he "great campaigns". He put down his princples in the book, "The Alchemy of Finance", where he says what "financial speculators think more important than real economic facts".
But this is but the picture the media -- and we know who owns them --paint of him. Who is he in reality?

William Engdahl knows this to say about him:
"Soros speculates on the world's financial markets via his secret off-shore company, "Quantum Fund NV", a private "investment fund" that handles a portfolio of 4 to 7 Billion US$ for several "clients".
The Quantum Fund is registered in the tax haven of the Netherland Antilles in the Caribbean. In order to evade control of his financial activities by the U.S. administration not a single U.S. citizen sits on the board of Quantum. It's directors are a curious mixture of Swiss and Italian financiers...

Soros has been identified as a front man of the Anglo-French Rothschild banking group.
Understandably neither he nor the Rothschilds want this important fact to be public, so the tight links to his friends in the London "City", in the British foreign ministry, in the state of Israel and to his mighty friends in the American establishment would stay concealed."

Among the members of the board of the Quantum Fund is one Richard Katz. He is, at the same time, head of the "Rothschild Italia S.p.A." in Milan and is also on the board of the commercial bank "N.M. Rothschild and Sons" in London. Another member of the board is Nils O. Taube. He is a partner in the London investment group "St. James Place Capital" which counts Lord Rothschild among it's main partners. A frequent partner of Soros in several of his speculations --especially in the driving up of the gold quotation-- is Sir James Goldsmith, a relative of the Rothschilds dynasty.

On the board of Quantum we also find some heads of some highly "discreet" Swiss private banks (who help the syndicates of organized crime--weapons and drugs--to launder their money). Then there is Edgar D. de Picciotto, head of the Geneva private bank "CBITDB Union Bancaire Privee", a main player on the gold and investment markets, Isidoro Albertini, head of the Milan stockbroking
company "Albertini and Co.", Beat Notz of the private bank "Banque Worms" at Geneva, Alberto Foglia, head of the Banca del Ceresio" at Lugano. In the course of the recent political corruption scandals in Italy it was found that several Italian politicians kept their money at the "Banca del Ceresio". Apparently Soros had more than just insider knowledge about the weal points in Italian politics when he attacked the lira in Sept. 1994.

William Engdahl explains : "Soros' connection to the ultra-secret international finance circles of the Rothschilds is not just an ordinary or accidental banking connection. The extraordinary success Soros has on the high-risk financial markets cannot simply be explained with "gambler's luck".
Soros has access to the "insider track" of the world's most imporatnt information channels, both government and private.

Not a single Western newspaper has so far uncovered the fact that the Rothschilds group linked with George Soros was at the hub of the vast illegal network of the BCCI. The key person in these activities was Dr. Alfred Hartmann, the managing director of the Swiss branch of the BCCI (Banque
de Commerce et de Placement SA), head of the Zurich Rothschild bank AG and member of the board of N.M. Rothschild & Sons in London. He was also on the board of the Swiss branch of the Italian BNL and was vice-chairman of the "N.Y. Intermaritime Bank" in Geneva. A friendly secret service man who had worked on the "Soros" case disclosed that in Sept. 1993 Soros had amassed along with a group of "silent partners", a firtune in excess of 10 Billion dollars to use as a lever to unhinge the European currencies.
Among the partners apparently were the little known metal and oil dealer Marc Rich and the Israeli arms dealer Shaul Eisenberg. For decades Eisenberg has beenworking for the Israeli secret service and has important arms deals in all of Asia and in the Near East.

A third partner of Soros is Rafi Eytan who before was the Mossad connection to the British secret service in London.
http://www.freedomdomain.com/soros01.html

Soros invested in gold and other mineral mines in Kosovo:

“Soros has made money in every country he has helped to prise ‘open’. In Kosovo, for example, he has invested $50 million in an attempt to gain control of the Trepca mine complex, where there are vast reserves of gold, silver, lead and other minerals estimated to be worth in the region of $5 billion. He thus copied a pattern he has deployed to great effect over the whole of eastern Europe of advocating ‘shocking therapy’ and ‘economic reform’, then swooping in with his associate to buy valuable state assets at knock-down prices,” according to Clark.*

http://www.mindfully.org/WTO/2003/George-Soros-Statesman2jun03.htm

I didn't read most of the article as I need to run, but found this wrt the correlation of gold and oil prices:

Crude oil has astonished analysts and consumers alike in the last 18 months, rocketing up an incredible 200%. Even folks not interested in studying the markets are seeing the effects of higher crude oil in their pocketbooks, as gas prices continue to rise at the pump and more and more companies tack on fuel surcharges. In addition to heralding inflation, oil has historically had a very high positive correlation with the undisputed king of assets, gold. In this essay, we will explore the historical relationship between gold and crude oil."

http://www.zealllc.com/commentary/goldinoil.htm


1,504 posted on 04/22/2006 10:44:50 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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