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Diane Feinstein: Confronting Iran (Diplomacy, NOT Preemption, fear Bush, not Iran's Nukes)
LA Times ^ | April 15, 2006 | Diane Feinstein

Posted on 04/15/2006 10:25:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion

The doctrine of preemption, first articulated by President Bush at West Point in June 2002, was spelled out in the September 2002 National Security Strategy: "The greater the threat, the greater the risk of inaction — and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves."

Just a few weeks ago, the doctrine was reiterated in the latest National Security Strategy. According to this document, the U.S. may use force before it is attacked because the nation cannot afford to "stand idly by as grave dangers materialize." Yet it is the doctrine itself that is dangerous.

Second, the doctrine of preemption may lead to a less stable world in general — especially if our adversaries believe they are safe from preemptive action only if they possess nuclear weapons.

The U.S. should engage Iran diplomatically.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; feinstein; iran; irannukes
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It's all our fault, that Iran is acquiring nukes and we should engage them diplomatically, never mind that Iran is only using diplomacy to gain time to build nuclear bombs.

The Democrats are DANGEROUS to our very lives.

1 posted on 04/15/2006 10:25:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
"The U.S. should engage Iran diplomatically."

Have these clowns been paying any attention to Irans military build up and their recent rhetoric?

2 posted on 04/15/2006 10:26:42 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: FairOpinion

This is a good place for this quote:

"The 1930's taught us a clear lesson: aggressive conduct, if allowed to go unchecked and unchallenged, ultimately leads to war. This nation is opposed to war. We are also true to our word. Our unswerving objective, therefore, must be to prevent the use of these missiles against this or any other country, and to secure their withdrawal or elimination from the Western Hemisphere.

Our policy has been one of patience and restraint, as befits a peaceful and powerful nation which leads a worldwide alliance. We have been determined not to be diverted from our central concerns by mere irritants and fanatics. But now further action is required, and it is under way; and these actions may only be the beginning. We will not prematurely or unnecessarily risk the costs of worldwide nuclear war in which even the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth; but neither will we shrink from that risk at any time it must be faced.

Neither the United States of America nor the world community of nations can tolerate deliberate deception and offensive threats on the part of any nation, large or small. We no longer live in a world where only the actual firing of weapons represents a sufficient challenge to a nation's security to constitute maximum peril. Nuclear weapons are so destructive and ballistic missiles are so swift, that any substantially increased possibility of their use or any sudden change in their deployment may well be regarded as a definite threat to peace."


---- John F. Kennedy, Oct. 22, 1962


Seems like JFK was adocating the doctrine of preemption.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkcubanmissilecrisis.html




3 posted on 04/15/2006 10:30:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: CWOJackson

They are so busy hating Bush, that they don't care about Iran's nuclear buildup. Will they take responsibility if Iran nukes Israel and us?

Iran Flaunts Low-Level Enrichment to Conceal High-Powered Weaponizaton Plant

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615828/posts

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The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615802/posts


4 posted on 04/15/2006 10:33:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: CWOJackson

I say we send the tramp to Tehran and let her negotiate.
I'm sure that she would be welcomed.


5 posted on 04/15/2006 10:34:12 PM PDT by T-Bro (Hey, dems... tax this!)
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To: FairOpinion
We've already tried THAT - and it hasn't stopped Iran's nuke ambitions. Iran has no intention of halting uranium enrichment processing, despite world demands. Diane Feinstein is a fool if she thinks Iran can be stopped from acquiring a nuclear bomb by sweet talk and sanctions.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

6 posted on 04/15/2006 10:39:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion
I read both earlier. The second one is the more sinister for me, but I don't think Iraq will be their target. That would make them a threat to the rest of the Muslim world and we know how they responded when Iraq went into Kuwait.

I don't think they would try to use it on a U.S. city either. Regardless of the rhetoric against us, world opinion would against them and not even the U.N. would attempt to get in our way.

For these same reasons, and some of their other rhetoric, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel wasn't the target. There wouldn't be a whole lot of world support for Israel and I do believe the usual suspects would do everything they could to prevent us from responding.

Of course these folks don't seem to be the most rational around.

7 posted on 04/15/2006 10:43:17 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

My personal opinion is that they will nuke something, to show they have the nukes and are willing to use it.

Then they will try to blackmail the world, by threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz, nuke Israel, etc. unless the US does this, that, and the other thing. We can't submit to blackmail. Waiting to strike Iran just makes it all that much more dangerous.

In the meantime the left is ratcheting up the rhetoric, trying to undermine support for a preemptive strike against Iran.


8 posted on 04/15/2006 10:47:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
"In the meantime the left is ratcheting up the rhetoric, trying to undermine support for a preemptive strike against Iran."

That's a real risky proposition when you're counting on a mad man with a nuke to not do something stupid. They pop a nuke off anywhere and you're political toast.

9 posted on 04/15/2006 10:50:16 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: FairOpinion

What planet does she live on?


10 posted on 04/15/2006 10:52:11 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

"What planet does she live on?"

Unfortunately, we in California are stuck with this Marxist dolt.


11 posted on 04/15/2006 10:55:02 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: KamperKen

I'm sorry.


12 posted on 04/15/2006 10:59:44 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: FairOpinion

Let's face it folks...
The opposition have NO IDEAS, No plan of any kind, they are just going to obstruct, obsfuscate, and complain about anything we might do....

It's sad that we have a large group of AMERICANS betting that America will fail.......

In the world in which now live, Christians are labeled as a HATE GROUP, the Gay Lifestyle is presented as "Normal", Illegals demand RIGHTS, and the PRESIDENT is the hated enemy, NOT the terrorists killing thousands, who want to kill millions......

I fear it will take nothing less than the disapearance of a major American City in a radioactive cloud, and the millions of horrible deaths that will come with it, to change minds...

Now we are faced with having to deal with Iran ALONE...
Either we step up and do the right thing, or we face eventual capitulation....

Our founders would be rolling in thier graves at how easily America has been sold out....

"Is this how Democrasy dies? Not with a whimper, but to thunderous applause??"


13 posted on 04/15/2006 11:02:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: KamperKen

Mohomoud Ahmadjihad: Diane Fienstein? Oh no! Oh, herro. Great to see you again, Diane!

Diane notso Feinstien: Mr. Ahmadjihad, I was supposed to be allowed to inspect your palace today, but your guards won't let me enter certain areas.

Mohomoud Ahmadjihad: Diane, Diane, Diane! We've been frew this a dozen times. I don't have any weapons of mass destwuction, OK Diane?

Diane notso Feinstien: Then let me look around, so I can ease the UN's collective mind. I'm sorry, but the UN must be firm with you. Let me in, or else.

Mohomoud Ahmadjihad: Or else what?

Diane notso Feinstien: Or else we will be very angry with you... and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.

Mohomoud Ahmadjihad: OK, Diane. I'll show you. Stand to your reft.

Diane notso Feinstien: [Moves to the left]

Mohomoud Ahmadjihad: A rittle more.

Diane notso Feinstien: [Moves to the left again]

Mohomoud Ahmadjihad: Good.
[Opens up trap, Hans falls in]


14 posted on 04/15/2006 11:05:24 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Diane Notso Feinstien's eyes.)
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To: FairOpinion

Long, long ago, in a land that seems FAR away, Deocrats were actually PRO-American.......


15 posted on 04/15/2006 11:06:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: FairOpinion
In this case, everyone in their right mind is advocating the doctrine of preemption. It is precisely the same situation JFK faced. We are being threatened both directly and indirectly by the half-witted Mullahs of Iran. The military option MUST stay on the table for any sort of negotiations to even be possible. Feinsh*t needs to shut her ugly mouth and let the President do his job.

I imagine she thinks JFK was a hero because he, allegedly, "faced down" the Soviets in Cuba. (She is, no doubt, content to ignore the fact the the "crisis" was one of Kennedy's own making.)
16 posted on 04/15/2006 11:08:18 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

Your using logical thought..... How dare you...

Salano and the EU have already pre-emptively surrendered to Iran...

Any action to stop them will be taken by us, and alone again...
Let's face it..
The world, the Media, and our own left have absolutely NO INTEREST in stopping Iran. If we had never attacked Iraq, the left would be unleashing curdling screams begging for Saddam's blood....

If it's GOOD for America, and makes Bush look good in ANY way, it's bad for Democrats and the American left, even if it means our eventual defeat.....


17 posted on 04/15/2006 11:14:51 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: CWOJackson

"That's a real risky proposition when you're counting on a mad man with a nuke to not do something stupid."

What do you do when he has a whole bunch of them? Take him out along with his capabilities now before they grow. If he'll use one he'll use many.


18 posted on 04/15/2006 11:20:16 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Springtime for Iran.)
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To: do the dhue

LOL!

Unfrotunately, that's about the way it goes, except we aren't so lucky to have DiFi fall throuw a trap door.


19 posted on 04/15/2006 11:20:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
If foreign policy regarding the Iranian nuclear terrorist threat were left up to the appeasing Dems, some American cities will not longer exist!

Taking out two tyrants is always better then just one.

20 posted on 04/15/2006 11:26:32 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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