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To: Gumlegs
Ideas aren't restricted by law . . .

The expression of ideas is often restricted and suppressed by law. You apparently think it is necessary to employ the law in order to squelch expression of the idea that organized matter performing specific functions might be best explained by intelligent design. For you the idea seems to be necessarily religious, even though there is nothing inherently religious about intelligence, design, or any combination of the two.

Even if the idea were but "religion" of the purest kind it is contrary to our Constitution to prohibit freedom of religious expression in a public, academic context. Don't tell me about ignorance when you neither honor nor acknowledge a fundamental principle under which this country was founded.

Your knee jerk reaction, like that of your ilk, shows that you are not so much interested in defending science - let alone the free expression of ideas in a scientific context - as in expecting the rest of us, by law, to believe as you do about the general nature and purpose of the physical universe.

You speak of a "grossly inept creator," yet I doubt you ever designed and built a single living cell. I'd like to see you try without the aid of intelligence or design. Perhaps the gross ineptness better applies to your capacity as a scientist. You ask whether it is "some kind of threat" to call you anything but a scientist when you argue for the suppression of reasonable inferences in a scientific context. No. It is simply a case of a label properly applied.

322 posted on 04/15/2006 7:23:25 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The expression of ideas is often restricted and suppressed by law. You apparently think it is necessary to employ the law in order to squelch expression of the idea that organized matter performing specific functions might be best explained by intelligent design.

Get off it. Have the cops been knocking at your door?

You still don't seem to understand that "freedom of expression" does not mean that any blast emanating from some undisclosed portion of your anatomy gets to be called "science."

For you the idea seems to be necessarily religious, even though there is nothing inherently religious about intelligence, design, or any combination of the two.

Ah, there's that incoherence we've come to know and, um, expect. Still haven't figured out why ID isn't science. Too bad.

Even if the idea were but "religion" of the purest kind it is contrary to our Constitution to prohibit freedom of religious expression in a public, academic context.

Don't get around much anymore?

Don't tell me about ignorance when you neither honor nor acknowledge a fundamental principle under which this country was founded.

You seem to think you have a license to pretend any fool notion you've latched onto is science. That's not the case. And it's certainly not the case that you can force the rest of us to share your delusion.

Your knee jerk reaction, like that of your ilk, shows that you are not so much interested in defending science - let alone the free expression of ideas in a scientific context - as in expecting the rest of us, by law, to believe as you do about the general nature and purpose of the physical universe.

You're really on a roll, tonight ... or maybe it's just some "jerk" of your own. Only it's not your knee. There is no such thing as "the free expression of ideas in a scientific context" -- unless you're possessed of your own copy of the Constitution as peculiar as your ideas about science. You don't know what science is. Your right to "free expression of ideas in a scientific context" is the same as my dog's.

Except that the dog is nearly as laughable.

You speak of a "grossly inept creator," yet I doubt you ever designed and built a single living cell. I'd like to see you try without the aid of intelligence or design.

You seem to be implying the creator did it without the aid of intelligence -- hmm.

Perhaps the gross ineptness better applies to your capacity as a scientist. You ask whether it is "some kind of threat" to call you anything but a scientist when you argue for the suppression of reasonable inferences in a scientific context. No. It is simply a case of a label properly applied.

That's not what you posted before and it's not what I called you on. Go back and read your own words, Fester.

You've consistently ignored the points I and many other posters have raised about how science works. I suspect it's because you really don't have a rational answer. If you have one, post it. If you don't, we'll know you're continuing that jerk reaction again.

325 posted on 04/15/2006 7:59:23 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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