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FOX News Alert: U.S. Marines in Afghanistan Open Operation Mountain Lion
FOX News Cable | April 12, 2006

Posted on 04/12/2006 1:45:28 AM PDT by the_Watchman

The U.S. military has announced that the largest air assualt in 4 years in Afghanistan is underway in Kunar province. It was kicked off 15 hours ago, but a news embargo was imposed. An attempt has been made to keep the Al Queda and Taliban opposition contained so that they will not escape.

Several thousand coalition soldiers are involved. The exit passes are being held since it was believed that too many opposition forces escaped during the previous Operation Anaconda.


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; gnfa; gwot; missinglink; mountainlion; oef; opmountainlion
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To: jmc1969

Don't hold your breath though, Bin Laden has gone very deep.

I only need him to go 6 feet deep, not very deep at all.


201 posted on 04/12/2006 10:09:56 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for those pics. Rugged country!


202 posted on 04/12/2006 10:11:11 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: ohioWfan

You know, I work with them every day...and I am extremely hopeful. There are some great people coming up who have somehow risen above the garbage they are being offered.

Courage comes in many costumes.


203 posted on 04/12/2006 10:11:29 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: JewishRighter

bump!


204 posted on 04/12/2006 10:12:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: the_Watchman
...news embargo...

The fastest way to win the war!

205 posted on 04/12/2006 10:13:13 AM PDT by admiralsn (I believe God gives only three answers to prayer: Yes | Not yet | I have something better in mind)
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To: the_Watchman

a news embargo was imposed

That's good. We don't need the MSM telling Achmed when and where we are going. Also we DON'T have the right to know everything. That's why some things are CLASSIFIED.


206 posted on 04/12/2006 10:20:15 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: COBOL2Java

Hmm, that means David Gregory didnt have a chance to tip off his buddies at Al Qaeda


207 posted on 04/12/2006 10:21:11 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: jmc1969
That said I think it would be a good idea to use more of our Sunni strategy in Iraq with the tribal leaders in Pakistan. Start offering them money, gifts, and land for favors and worm your way in with those who care more about their pocket book. I understand the rigid family and tribal loyalties up there, but no where in the world does money not talk.

It would be nice to get a few more Taliban leaders in our pocket. Many of these people can be bought for the right price, hell Mullah Omar would sell out Bin Laden and his first born child for the right price. We don't have to go anywhere near that far, but if it were up to me I would try splitting the Taliaban like we did the insurgents between the greedy ones and the fanatical insane ones.

I hear what you are saying here but it is complete different system / structure - Between those in the Afghan / Pak border region and those in Iraq -

Additionally to a large degree those in power within the border region already have plenty of $$ - And while there are some that we have "bought" in the past....some of these simply "turned" back as time went buy ....one of the main HVTs we are after Gulbuddin Hekmatyar being one of those -

And while there are some within this region we need to "buy" or "bring along" to provide us with Intel - Those of this ilk or class are few and far between within that region of the world. But trust me $$ millions have been handed out in that region....

I do agree with you to a large degree regarding Zarqawi.

208 posted on 04/12/2006 10:34:02 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Dog
I don't get it. I go to Google Earth, and can get a close up sat image of my front yard. I know American intelligence can do this anywhere in the world, only live, and with much higher resolution.

I would think they would have every individual in these regions catalogued by now. I would think they would know what time they got up everyday, and if they left somewhere for work, and what time they got home. I would think they would have everyone pegged as local Pashtun, Arab, Czech, or any other nationality.

We are talking a few hundred thousand folks at most. Small database by NSA standards.

My guess? They have known exactly where UBL is for quite some time. The intel types obviously feel they can aquire more data by not apprehending him.

209 posted on 04/12/2006 10:34:39 AM PDT by NeonKnight (We don't believe you, you need more people.)
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To: Dog
The idea is to get the other guy to react to you....well they will get a reaction from AQ on this one.

Announce the LARGEST air assualt in 4 years...close off the mountain passes into Pakiland and the mothership....announce to the world we are doing it....then impose a blackout....I bet there are some frantic calls in the AQ leadership about now trying to figure out what is going on....and the whole while we are listening in to the intercepts.

You are on the right track here -

210 posted on 04/12/2006 10:38:22 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: NeonKnight
I don't get it. I go to Google Earth, and can get a close up sat image of my front yard. I know American intelligence can do this anywhere in the world, only live, and with much higher resolution.

I'm thinking the best we have is one meter per pixel.

How tall is OBL? 2 pixels?

211 posted on 04/12/2006 10:46:32 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: BnBlFlag
......"what the Taliban did to women". The new regime is not a Helluva lot better in that respect.

Let's see;

The new regime is building schools - the old regime is bombing schools.

212 posted on 04/12/2006 10:49:20 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Since you asked:

I'd like to see his head on a pike. No need for a Saddam like trial


213 posted on 04/12/2006 11:05:08 AM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: AprilfromTexas

I guess the lawyers approved this one huh??

Leave no stone unturned and no insurgent living.


214 posted on 04/12/2006 11:11:00 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: the_Watchman

Just got done reading all the posts on this thread. God bless our troops, and may they have swift and total victory.


215 posted on 04/12/2006 11:21:58 AM PDT by American Quilter
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To: the_Watchman
"When in doubt, hit harder than you think necessary. Success will be forgiven. Even the best-intentioned failure will not. When military force is used against terrorist networks, it should be used with such power that it stuns even our allies. We must get over our cowardice in means. While small-scale raids and other knifepoint operations are useful against individual targets, broader operations should be overwhelming. Of course, targeting limitations may inhibit some efforts but whenever possible, maximum force should be used in simultaneous operations at the very beginning of a campaign. Do not hesitate to supplement initial target lists with extensive bombing attacks on nothing if they can increase the initial psychological impact. Demonstrate power whenever you can. Show; don't tell! (Do – don’t talk!)"

Ralph Peters

216 posted on 04/12/2006 11:27:32 AM PDT by LilDarlin (Being very feminine got me this far; it will take me the rest of the way, too!)
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To: the_Watchman

Prayers for the safety of our troops and success of mission..


217 posted on 04/12/2006 11:46:07 AM PDT by MozartLover ( My son, my soldier, my hero. Protect him, Lord, wherever he goes, and keep him strong.)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


218 posted on 04/12/2006 11:50:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: NeonKnight
I don't get it. I go to Google Earth, and can get a close up sat image of my front yard. I know American intelligence can do this anywhere in the world, only live, and with much higher resolution.

I would think they would have every individual in these regions catalogued by now. I would think they would know what time they got up everyday, and if they left somewhere for work, and what time they got home. I would think they would have everyone pegged as local Pashtun, Arab, Czech, or any other nationality.

We are talking a few hundred thousand folks at most. Small database by NSA standards.

You give too much credit to our eyes in the sky - While they are an incredible asset and invaluable in many ways (they are often over-hyped).

Nor do they (we) have a consant 24/7 monitoring of the entire Pak border region - Understand we are talking approximately 40,000 + square miles of the most rugged terrain on earth just in the NWFP section of Pak. That doesn't even include the Federal Tribal areas, nor all of Baluchistan

Also keeping in mind the Afghan / Pakistan border stretches 1,500 miles—roughly the distance from Washington, D.C., to Denver (again just to get an idea of the size we are talking).

And there are well more then several hundred thousand people living there - A whole helluva lot more (and they don't like outsiders at all...and can spot them in a minute more often then not).

My guess? They have known exactly where UBL is for quite some time. The intel types obviously feel they can aquire more data by not apprehending him.

While we don't know exactly where he is....the minute we know that we'll put shooters on him (preferably - unless the wargamers and JAGs convince those up higher to get cold feet).....but even if we don't put guns on him, well hit him from the sky stat....the minute we know his exact location.

With that said, we do have a "general idea" of where he is eking out his survival. But in that region of the world that is still a very long way from catching him.

Simply the logistics alone of conducting Ops in that region is a complete nightmare.

219 posted on 04/12/2006 12:21:07 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: adam_az

You will be disappointed if we DO catch him? Is that a mistake?


220 posted on 04/12/2006 12:26:07 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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