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To: savagesusie
"If someone, being himself an honest man, admired a boy's soul and tried to make of him an ideal friend without reproach and to associate with him, he approved, and believed in the excellence of this kind of training. But if it was clear that the attraction lay in the boy's outward beauty, he banned the connexion as an abomination; and thus he caused lovers to abstain from boys no less than parents abstain from sexual intercourse with their children and brothers and sisters with each other." --Constitution of the Lacedaemonians

Apparently pederasty is a platonic friendship with a man training a boy to fight. Where are your primary sources? Wikipedia? And yes, pro-sodomy sites and mistranslation who push the idea that Greek life was a paradise because of homosexuality are prevalent out in internet land. Sodomy, like all other civilizations were practiced, but too much false stereotypes about the Ancient Greeks bastardize what those who actually wrote of their experiences differ.
94 posted on 10/16/2010 12:03:41 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: rollo tomasi

How about Stanford....

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/homosexuality/

I graduated with a Fine Arts degree and we studied ancient art and I saw numerous depictions of homosexual sex which included boys, not only in ancient Greek and Rome art, but in Japanese and Asian art. We also saw a ton of homoerotica which was the art and statues that the pervert Hitler surrounded himself with, along with all his homosexual aides and Brownshirt homosexuals. Why do homosexuals never claim the Nazis as homosexuals...hmmmmm
They go after everyone else like Lincoln....they ignore all the homosexuals like Jeffery Dahmer and all the other homosexual serial killers?

There is an effort to make homosexuality a genetic condition which is a complete fraud, so yes, I agree that on the net there is a covert effort to scrub all sites of evidence of homosexual behavior as being “learned”. Kinsey, even that degenerate, considered sexuality fluid.

It is learned ....Remember that politician that recently was accused of trying to initiate sex with a teenager....he said he was molested by a 12 year old boy when he was 6 and he had this deep desire to have sex with boys that never left him.

Many of the priests (homosexuals) said they had been molested when they were boys and they couldn’t suppress that sexual urge when with young boys, even with extensive counseling and religious study....You could study Freud on the reason for fixations.

Better yet....Read the Pink Swastika. The homosexual groups are vigorously suppressing that book as you can see in Wikipedia (yes that site has cr*ppy info....ESPECIALLY when you have a rabid group who can’t stand TRUTH shining on their sickness.

The Wandervogel was founded by a homosexual who wanted to camp with German boys....get them away from their parents to seduce them and play with them (sexually)and condition them into the homosexual lifestyle (which he learned from being molested). It is disgusting.....to pervert the nature of man....Aristotle came up with logic and the idea of Natural Law which Cicero expanded on....

It was the idea of Natural Law which became prevalent with Catholic Theology in Western Civilization which was based on reason, logic and science, that finally stuck that vile lifestyle into the closet where it needs to stay. It corrupts the innocence and nature of young boys. The Founding Fathers couldn’t even mentioned the act they thought is so vile and evil and so destructive to the civil society.


95 posted on 10/18/2010 5:46:32 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: rollo tomasi

The homosexuals are trying to revise history as are all Cultural Marxists. They twist and lie. It is exactly what the Bible predicts....good will become evil and evil, good.

This is such an example of the Progressive/Marxists twisted thinking from a “credible” Stanford site...ha ha. Note the unbiased word “fascinating” and the affirmation that there is “sharp debate”.....Right==only with Cultural Marxists or Atheists and those Cultural Marxists who took over “Christian” churches and installed their practicing homosexual pastors. HA HA.

“Exactly what attitude the New Testament has towards sexuality in general, and same-sex attraction in particular, is a matter of sharp debate. John Boswell argues, in his fascinating Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality, that many passages taken today as condemnations of homosexuality are more concerned with prostitution, or where same-sex acts are described as “unnatural” the meaning is more akin to ‘out of the ordinary’ rather than as immoral (Boswell, 1980, ch.4; see also Boswell, 1994). “


96 posted on 10/18/2010 7:46:03 PM PDT by savagesusie
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