Immigration bill deserves to die

The Buffalo News ^ | 4/10/2006 | Douglas Turner

[GarySpFc]

WASHINGTON - At the moment, the Bush administration's immigration initiative is stalled in Congress. It might even die in the House.
It ought to.

There is nothing in it for the average American working man or woman, or taxpayer. The forces behind the bill are commerce and politics.

In 2002, the Bush administration opened wide the gates that had been breached along the Southwest border with Mexico during the Clinton administration.

"Amnesty" is a fighting word. Promoters in the Senate call it giving illegals a second chance. But if it looks like, talks like and walks like amnesty, call it by its proper name.

[A. Pole]

There is nothing in it for the average American working man or woman, or taxpayer. The forces behind the bill are commerce and politics.

Bump

[Yo-Yo]

Seal the boarders, remove the jobs incentive, and as Newt said most of the illegals will deport themselves. Then we can deal with the rest.

[cripplecreek]

Taxation without representation.

[stopem]

Unfortunately it may be remove the jobs and our welfare rolls, medicaid rolls increase.

But that shouldn't stop us from sealing the borders tight or penalizing the employers not paying taxes.

The world is watching what message will our elected officials send to the world and to the terroists?
We don't enforce laws?

[trebb]

And if the Dims get their way, it will be representation without taxation.

[Yo-Yo]

Don't provide non-life threatining services to illegal aliens. No welfare, no medicaid (other than emergency life threatening treatment), no driver's licenses, nothing. Illegals should fear asking our government for anything, since they are in this country illegally and should be subject to arrest and deportation.

Do we give welfare benefits to fugitive felons on the FBI Ten Most Wanted list, or do we quietly tip the police that so-and-so is waiting at the local welfare office filling out paperwork?

An interesting google of "deport themselves" came up with this very interesting vanity by our very own Sabertooth back in 2002. It seems that Newt is recycling ideas from our own freepers.

[Rakkasan1]

guest workers=guest voters

if we can shut down money wire transfers operations funding terrorist nations, why can't we
impose a 25% tax on US dollars wired to MX to help fund our border fence?

[trebb]

Everyone seems to have been really mad at the Prez about this issue, even though he tried to take a track that might actually end up with a move in the right direction.

Now, after seeing what a mess the Congress is making of it, maybe some would reevaluate - especially those that would "teach the Repubs a lesson in 2006" in hopes of getting them to turn around. The Congress does not want to do anything positive, because they are either cowards (the average Repub up there) or want the largest illegal base possible for political reasons (the average Dim). The Congress has refused to insist that existing immigration laws be enforced and has actually stood in the way of those that would enforce the laws. After making it a big issue (because each side knows that their bases want it addressed and each side thought they could make political hay over it) the Congress has done what it does best and screwed the pooch so bad it doesn't know which end is up anymore. If nothing else, it should be an eye-opener that the Prez is about the only Repub that really wants something to happen, while almost none of the Congress is willing to do what is right for the nation and the Dims are actually for amnesty, that fits the actual meaning of amnesty.

[Mike Darancette]

But if it looks like, talks like and walks like amnesty, call it by its proper name.

The naive left believes and is trying to convince others through agitprop that the illegals ultimate goal is to become US citizens and assimilate. They say that giving the illegals a tortuous path to ultimate citizen ship is not amnesty in the strict sense, it that they might be correct.

What they fail to realize is that the goal of most illegals is to be in this country by any means necessary. To allow those illegals to remain in the country under the guise of naturalization is absolutely amnesty.

Any plan to work must take this reality into consideration. IMHO: there needs to be a system that allows those with no interest in citizenship a way to keep their jobs, work for a specific length of time then go home. This is still amnesty of a sort but addresses the reality.

But for any plan to work at all the border must be closed.

[blogbat]

Where's Jack Kevorkian when you need him?

[jordan8]

It's nothing but amnesty. You really have to admire the gall, the sheer brazenness of the Senate in producing this "reform." There's almost a majesty to their impudence on this matter that's more reminiscent of the Roman senate than the American one.

[The Duke]

Related question: If a burgler breaks into my house, how much should I pay him for the privilege of being burgled?

Also, I'm not really understanding why it's up to me to pay that burgler's health care costs for the rest of his life.

I think if this amnesty thing goes through I'll just the Mexicans go to the polls in my place next time around. It's hardly worth my time, it seems.

[Liz]

Aiding and abetting lawbreaking, and enabling felonious activity should be reported.

If your state and town's elected and appointed officials are misusinh tax funds for illegal purposes, investors and holders of tax-exempt bonds for transportation and highways, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, have been placed in financial jeopardy. The SEC should be advised of yours, and bondholders, concerns. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov

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FREEPER ACTIVISM: If municipalities advertising and using ballot referenda for tax-exempt municipal, transportation and highway bonds, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, are ignorsing illegal voting practices, are aiding and abetting illegals activities, and ignoring fraudulent documentation, they are violating their fiduciary responsibility and engaging in felonious activity. They could be held criminally liable. The SEC should be advised of your concerns. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.

FREEPER ACTIVISM: If the bonding agents for tax-exempt municipal transportation and highways, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, are ignoring illgal activities, the SEC should be advised of your concerns. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.

FREEPER ACTIVISM Most bonding agents conducting municipal business are registered broker-dealers and members of the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) and the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC). NASD and SIPC should also be contacted regarding your concerns about illegal activity.


FREEPER ACTIVISM Banks doing bonding business with states and municipalities that are conducting illegal activity are violatuing their fiduciary duties, and jeopardizing bank patrons, shareholders, and depositors and should be reported as follows:

The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) is the primary federal regulator for national banks. The OCC's Customer Assistance Group is available to assist customers with questions or complaints concerning national banks. Email to Customer.Assistance@occ.treas.gov.

General information about the Customer Assistance Group is available at the web site: http://www.occ.treas.gov/customer.htm.


FREEPER ACTIVISM

If duly elected officials are demanding and encouraging ILLEGALS to break the law, to obtain the unlawful right to vote using fraudulent documentation, and if elected and appointed officals did, in fact, allow illegals to break the law to serve on municipal councils, and if illegals are making monetary (taxing) decisions for U.S. Citizens, this might be a violation of the Hobbs Act......


If elected and appointed officials took campaign contributions from said illegals, this could be characterized as extortion, and/or bribery, and a violation of the Hobbs Act. The Hobbs Act was used recently to nail four Tenn state legislators and their aids in an extortion scheme. The TENN groups was arrested under the federal Hobbs Act, charging extortion, conspiracy to extort and attempted extortion, and accepting bribes by an agent of the state.


The Hobbs Act covers extortion by public officials, as follows: 2403 Hobbs Act -- Extortion By Force, Violence, or Fear. In order to prove a violation of Hobbs Act extortion by the wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear...............Did the defendant induce or attempt to induce the victim to give up property or property rights? LONG READ EXCERPTED TO HERE.


SOURCE October 1997 Criminal Resource Manual 2403 http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm02403.htm

[Liz]

Legal Americans must voice an opinion. If enough protest is made by legal Americans, our voices will be heard. We need to:


NOTIFY ICE----PHONE 1-866-347-2423
http://www.ice.gov/graphics/about/index.htm


1 Turn in any contractor that is hiring illegals to ICE;


2 Turn in any unlicensed illegals to your state contractor board;

3 Takes pictures of loitering illegals and turn in the pics with address to ICE;


4 Turn in license plates of any suspected illegal driving illegally to your DMV;


5 When issued any kind of driving ticket or other violation refuse to recognize the penalty due to the fact that illegals are given a pass on violating the law;

6 If you are hassled by the IRS make it clear that Illegals skip around taxes so why should legals pay...plus complain that you don't want tax dollars supporting illegals.

NOTIFY ICE----PHONE 1-866-347-2423
http://www.ice.gov/graphics/about/index.htm

[Liz]

We do not reward people for breaking the law.

The illegal invasion has concentrated the attention of Americans on the nature of democracy and its central bulwark against anarchy---our Constitution and the rule of law.

No question, the deciding factor in killing the amnesty bill were Americans, disgusted at vote-hungry US politicians, all puckered up, ready to assume the Hyphenate-Fellate position for political gain.

Bandying about a bill that treats these drugged-out lawbreakers better than law-abiding US citizens was about as dumb as you can get.

And we can't discount the arrogance of the illegals protesting in the streets. The mental midgets actually believe waving the Mexican flag in our faces helps their case.

Lowlife drug lords, dealers and pushers, lurking behind the scenes, actually told these illegal dupes that Americans are a bunch of suckers, that we would sit still for this atrocity----amnesty bill.

A pity these dumb amnesty pushers didn't factor in that Americans can spot a hidden agenda a mile away.

No one is impressed by this conspiracy of spineless marionettes dancing limply on the strings of corruption, manipulated by the unseen alien horde puppetmasters lurking behind the scenes, ready to pounce on US assets.

[goldstategop]

On West Wing Democrat Matt Santos won the election because he was tough on illegal immigration. If even a liberal TV show gets it, why doesn't the Senate GOP? The American people are dead set against amnesty and the DREAM Act. And any politician who votes for it is going to find himself going into retirement in November. That's especially true for the weak-kneed Republicans intent on selling out the country for short term political gain. The whole Bush program deserves to be dead this year.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")