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To: CBart95

Too few know anything about the man. Furthermore, I was in MI on 9/11/01. The feedback I got from the folks in The Heartland was, "Well, it's NY. Who cares?" Even the folks in the taverns where there were TVs showing the carnage, no one paid any attention; they just ordered another drink.


27 posted on 04/06/2006 11:34:37 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

That's a sad account, Cob. I was in California. We ,or the folks I ran into reacted in horror and anger.

We saw our innocent brothers and sisters dying before our horrified eyes.

People in MI who were in bars at that hour must have been in "the bag" by then. Let's see? That would have been about 8:15AM? Future AA members I hope.

Many of us still weep about the images we've been subjected to. I wear a NYFD tee shirt at my gym as tribute to those incredibly brave people who went to thier deaths without question...that may seem stupid to some...I do not care what it seems...I know what it means.


33 posted on 04/06/2006 11:46:48 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: Cobra64
What kind of idiots would be drinking in a bar on a Monday at 8-10 A.M.? I can tell you that the rest of the country was definitely paying attention to what was going on.

As for Guiliani, his haters should give it a rest when it comes to his leadership on 9-11.

34 posted on 04/06/2006 11:51:52 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Cobra64
The feedback I got from the folks in The Heartland was, "Well, it's NY. Who cares?"

Well that's the feedback from most Freepers when it comes to posts about NYC. But on 9/11 I have to admit all Freepers were as one angry and shocked voice and for a brief period in time cared about NYC and New Yorkers and we New Yorkers felt the love and companionship. And if anything happened to New Yorkers again Freepers will be as one voice again! But those people who you described in the Heartland who didn't care on 9/11 are not human beings!

35 posted on 04/06/2006 11:52:08 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Cobra64
The feedback I got from the folks in The Heartland was, "Well, it's NY. Who cares?"

I live in the Heartland and can assure you NO ONE felt that way. The first reaction was fright, then anger, then how can we help? People drove a thousand miles to help their fellow Americans (not New Yorkers) out. We knew we were all in this together. I don't know who you saw in the bar that day, but I can assure you, it was NOTHING like that.

39 posted on 04/06/2006 11:57:53 AM PDT by Jessarah
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To: Cobra64

I was in California, at work. We were all horrified. Even the libs in Santa Barbara were traumatized.


42 posted on 04/06/2006 12:00:55 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Cobra64
I do not think it is fair to characterize all the U.S. citizens in Michigan that way.
47 posted on 04/06/2006 12:36:18 PM PDT by Freedom Blitz
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To: Cobra64

"Too few know anything about the man. Furthermore, I was in MI on 9/11/01. The feedback I got from the folks in The Heartland was, "Well, it's NY. Who cares?" Even the folks in the taverns where there were TVs showing the carnage, no one paid any attention; they just ordered another drink."

You must live in an alternate reality, everyone I know was in a daze for days, if not weeks afterwards. Our entire company shut down for the day, nobody could work, and the same was true of companies all over the country. My phone and my girlfriend's cell phones were ringing off the hook as everyone we know called us from all over the country. (She was from NYC, I have family there, everyone wanted to know if our families were okay - thankfully, they were all safe...)

And this so-called indifference you say was there is a slap and spit in the face of the enormous, mind-boggling outpouring of donations, volunteers, and help afterwards, people went to NYC from all over the country (and the world), for free, on their dime, to help find the victims in the rubble, they sent money, food, clothes, tools... how on EARTH did you miss that? I saw a response from everywhere in this country that will never be matched in it's generosity, it was a virtual flood.

I have no idea why you would post what you did. Perhaps you hang out in "taverns" with drunks who only care about their next drink, but the rest of us experienced a much different reality than you did. I can't think of anyone I know, including people I work with in every state (sales), who was'nt horrified, shocked, and reeling for weeks afterwards.


105 posted on 04/08/2006 1:16:29 PM PDT by ByDesign
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