Protesters: Mexican Flag Symbol of Pride

AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 4/6/06 | Amanda Lee Myers

[SteveMcKing]

"Nobody gets upset with the Irish on St. Patrick's Day," said Gabriela Lemus,...

I absolutely do, and I expressed that view here on St. Patrick's day. It was promptly deleted by a moderator (perhaps I was too mean-spirited?).

Well, it's not St. Patrick's Day, and I believe I am on-topic when I say right now that there are no hyphen-Americans. You are American, or you are not.

Leave your flag and culture in your old country, or do not come here.

[Unam Sanctam]

Actually, the heavy emphasis on St. Patrick's Day here in Massachusetts has led me to fly the cross of St. George and St. Andrew on their respective feast days to honor my Anglo-Scottish heritage. I'm sure I'm the only one to do so.

[Colorado Doug]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen an Irish flag, even on St Patrick's Day. Is it of a leprechaun or shamrock? I guess I had better call one of the people in the Irish studies department at a local university.

[Mr. Mojo]

But those who carried them, and scholars of the immigrant community, say that pride in their culture should not be misconstrued as a lack of patriotism in their adopted nation.

I got a good look at that "patriotism" at the L.A. Coliseum in the late 90s during a U.S. vs. Mexico soccer game. Close to 100,000 people, and probably 90% of them rooting for Mexico. .....but that was the least of it. The American national anthem was booed mercilessly and "urine bombs" rained down on those (few) in attendance who had the guts to openly root for the "home" (American) team. At that point (almost a decade ago) I knew the invasion was close to being complete, and that America is despised by the invaders.

"Nobody gets upset with the Irish on St. Patrick's Day," said Gabriela Lemus

That's because Americans of Irish ancestry are legal citizens whose allegiance is (justifiably) unquestioned.

[TChris]

In the context of illegal immigration protests, the Mexican flag is a symbol of the soft conquest of the United States and its laws. Running the Mexican flag up a flag pole in the USA is not just about pride. That means something, and it isn't pleasant.

[Colorado Doug]

but hold the Mexican flag in their hearts

That pretty well sums it up. They need to go home, where the heart is.

[Condor51]

I don't see (or notice) all that many Irish flags on St. Patrick's day.

But even if there is, it would be akin to what the Mexicans do here on May 5th, or 'Sinko Da Freaking Mayo'.

But the difference is the Irish never protested-marched-demonstrated en masse while holding the flag of Ireland and demanding 'rights' for a bunch of illegal Micks.
[ I can say that being Irish :-) ]

actually I don't care who says 'Micks', doesn't bother me a bit.

[Colorado Doug]

In America, be you of Mexican, Italian, German, Polish, or even "Confederate" descent, you have a right to carry that flag. See Columbus Day in Chicago.

That's true, just like you you have a right to wave a KKK flag. What is your point?

[Mr. Mojo]

In America, be you of Mexican, Italian, German, Polish, or even "Confederate" descent, you have a right to carry that flag.

Is anyone here questioning the Mexicans' right to wave their flag? (Didn't think so). Your statement is akin to those constantly made by leftist anti-war protestors about their having the "right" to protest. No one is questioning their "rights," we're criticizing their actions. Understand the difference?

[hispanarepublicana]

Aww...poor Fonzie.

[hispanarepublicana]

I think you've made a good point. The difference between an Italian flag being used in a Christopher Columbus parade or an Irish flag being used in a St. Patrick's Day parade versus the way the Mexican flag was used last week is that the Americans of Italian/Irish heritage aren't parading because of a reason that is directly hostile to the U.S. And, they aren't parading demanding special rights or amnesties for their group (although there might be some Irish-Americans begging amnesty from their spouses the next morning).
It's not unusual to go to backyard bbq parties where I live, hosted by BOTH hispanics and non-hispanics, and see the colors of the Mexican flag and/or little Mexican flag toothpicks, etc., used at a Mexican food-themed party. But, there's usually an American flag flying from the front porch. One local hispanic heritage organization (they do historical/genealogical stuff, etc.) uses American/Texan/Mexican flags in their special event centerpieces.

[Mr. Mojo]

The difference between an Italian flag being used in a Christopher Columbus parade or an Irish flag being used in a St. Patrick's Day parade versus the way the Mexican flag was used last week is that the Americans of Italian/Irish heritage aren't parading because of a reason that is directly hostile to the U.S. And, they aren't parading demanding special rights or amnesties for their group

Worth repeating.

One good thing about last week's outrage is that it alerted previously ignorant Americans to the intentions/sentiments of millions of our "guest workers," which of course hurts the latter's cause immeasurably. No more flying under the radar for them.

[hispanarepublicana]

One good thing about last week's outrage is that it alerted previously ignorant Americans to the intentions/sentiments of millions of our "guest workers," which of course hurts the latter's cause immeasurably. No more flying under the radar for them.

Translation for lurkers from La Raza, MeCHA, etc.: Se chingaron con su pinché bandera Mejicana.

[VegasCowboy]

"(Immigrants) have been trying for some time to imagine themselves as a part of the United States," he added. "What they've experienced is refusal."

Really? Is that why everything from voting ballots to billboards are printed in Spanish? I even see advertisements for WIC services in Spanish. Wow. If that is refusal, I'd hate to see acceptance!

What utter nonsene.

[Becki]

Nobody gets upset with the Irish on St. Patrick's Day," said Gabriela Lemus

Is she really so dense that she does not understand the difference between a celebration and a protest????

Becki

[Pa' fuera]

But, then, no Irish immigrant, as far as I know, has ever suggested that an entire region of the United States of America should be "reconquered" by Ireland.

Irishman Vicente Fox is the commander-in-chief of the Mexican Reconquista, however

[Pa' fuera]

I found it hard to understand that so many people would come across the broder to work and shop everyday and travel on well maintained roads, walk on cleanly sidewalks and eat in restaurants regulated by health stards boards - then return to Mexico where just across the imaginary line in the sand, sewage runs in the streets and dogs scavenge for scraps in the kitchens of eating establishments that co-incidentally have bathrooms plumbed with 3/4 inch waste lines that can't handle wads of paper, so people just throw used toilet paper on the floor.

if you go to the rest rooms at the fast food joints near the border, you'll see that they don't believe that our plumbing systems can handle TP, either

[zook]

"Is anyone here questioning the Mexicans' right to wave their flag? (Didn't think so). "

To the contrary--a hell of a lot of people here were saying things like "get the hell out, if you want to wave that flag." So, you're wrong right out of the box!

[zook]

"That's true, just like you you have a right to wave a KKK flag. What is your point?"

I guess now it's reading comprehension. Go back and review all the comments calling for the Mexican flag wavers to get the hell out of the US.