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Protesters: Mexican Flag Symbol of Pride
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 4/6/06 | Amanda Lee Myers

Posted on 04/06/2006 6:55:56 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam

PHOENIX - Hundreds of protesters gripped Mexican flags as they marched for immigration reform in the past few weeks, but they say a display of cultural unity is being mistaken as a lack of loyalty to the United States.

The displays turned off many Americans. Conservative talk show hosts admonished the protesters, while everyday people wrote angry letters to the editors of their local newspapers.

Some called for those carrying the Mexican flag to return to Mexico. Others questioned why immigrants demanding rights in the United States would wave symbols of Mexico.

But those who carried them, and scholars of the immigrant community, say that pride in their culture should not be misconstrued as a lack of patriotism in their adopted nation.

"Nobody gets upset with the Irish on St. Patrick's Day," said Gabriela Lemus, director of policy and legislation at the Washington, D.C.-based League of United Latin American Citizens, the group that organized most of the recent protests and is heading the dozens of marches and rallies scheduled across the nation Monday.

Critics of waving the red, white and green have questioned marchers' loyalty to the United States, but Latino activists deny the implications.

"The Mexican flag is like a symbol of dignity and identity and pride for the people who carry it," said Dolores Huerta, who co-founded the United Farm Workers of America with Cesar Chavez. "If people try to read more into that flag than what it is, they're wrong."

Huerta, who spoke from her home in Bakersfield, Calif., carried the Mexican flag during the farm workers' movement in the 1960s, and she carried it more recently during rallies in Los Angeles and Tucson.

"Pride and roots is what it is," she said. "It definitely does not mean separation or nationalism in the sense that we want to go back to Mexico."

Isidro D. Ortiz, a political scientist and professor of Chicano and Chicana studies at San Diego State University, said the flag is primarily a symbol of Mexican pride. But, in the current climate of the United States, Latinos also wave it to express dissatisfaction with how they are treated, Ortiz said.

"(Immigrants) have been trying for some time to imagine themselves as a part of the United States," he added. "What they've experienced is refusal."

Intentional or not, protest organizers acknowledge that the controversy over the Mexican flag is detracting from the message demonstrators want to send.

"(The flag) is a distraction," said Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. "What the marchers were marching for was to say, 'Hey, we are here, we work, we're tired of being made to blame for every ill that people experience.'"

Lemus said her organization is encouraging protesters to carry both the U.S. and Mexican flags to show their pride in both countries.

"The American flag is a symbol of what they are trying to become — a U.S. citizen," she said.

Jennifer Allen, executive director of the immigrant rights group Border Action Network, said she is not discouraging anyone from bringing the Mexican flag to Monday's march in Tucson. Rather, the protesters themselves are spreading the word.

"A lot of immigrant families in southern Arizona are telling one another to carry the American flag in their hands, but hold the Mexican flag in their hearts," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; lulac; mexicanflag
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To: oldleft
Here's a group of fellas who are just showing their pride of their race. What's the big deal?

Is that a recent photo? Or, can't you come up with a good argument either?

41 posted on 04/06/2006 7:39:40 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Unam Sanctam
Rush put it best.

They've already jumped the shark.

You can't come back from that.

42 posted on 04/06/2006 7:40:39 AM PDT by yooling (I don't have anything nice to say...)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Southerners who display the Confederate flag say the same thing, yet they are lambasted for their display.


43 posted on 04/06/2006 7:41:07 AM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: thoughtomator

Teddy Roosevelt said it best "THERE IS ONLY ROOM FOR THE AMERICAN FLAG" if you want to pledge allegiance to any other you are not welcome.


44 posted on 04/06/2006 7:44:12 AM PDT by snowman1
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To: Unam Sanctam

"The American flag is a symbol of what they are trying to become — a U.S. citizen," she said.

Well then you should be waving the Stars and Stripes.


45 posted on 04/06/2006 7:44:23 AM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: x1stcav

LOL. Thanks for the bumper sticker....first time I've seen it.


46 posted on 04/06/2006 7:47:34 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: Unam Sanctam

sounds like a lot of contradiction. ok, i can see a mexican wanting to be american, and i can see them waving a mexican flag for cultural pride- altho i don't see anything to be proud of. but when you add the signs that call for reclaimation of azatlan.. the message changes to one of foreign invasion. with signs that say "we want this land" and waving the flag of another country, i see that as an act of war.


48 posted on 04/06/2006 7:56:17 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Zacs Mom
With any luck communist flags intermingled with Mexican flags will enhance their loud and clear message on May 1st.
49 posted on 04/06/2006 7:58:16 AM PDT by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: raybbr
The argument is that as a culture we don't tolerate claims of racial superiority in the 21st century. "Viva la Raza" is at least a claim of one race over another, and at worst a claim that said race is superior. It is also symptomatic of a separatist mentality.

That's what I was trying to relate by putting up a picture of the KKK.
50 posted on 04/06/2006 7:59:43 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: Milhous

I suspect we'll see a "sea of red." For my part, I'm going on a spending spree and smoking big cigars all day.


51 posted on 04/06/2006 8:00:47 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: MizSterious

If they're so "proud", why did they leave?


52 posted on 04/06/2006 8:04:34 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Unam Sanctam

The MEXICAN FLAG IS A SIGN OF CONTEMPT FOR THE USA!


54 posted on 04/06/2006 8:18:00 AM PDT by petkus
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To: Unam Sanctam
"Nobody gets upset with the Irish on St. Patrick's Day," said Gabriela Lemus, director of policy and legislation at the Washington, D.C.-based League of United Latin American Citizens, the group that organized most of the recent protests and is heading the dozens of marches and rallies scheduled across the nation Monday

Boy, nothing reinforces the myth of the "dumb Mexican" more than having an ignorant posterior rambling on without any knowledge of the Irish Diaspora.

56 posted on 04/06/2006 8:27:48 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: muawiyah

"It was American demand that brought about the creation of Free Ireland ~ the Brits agreed as part of the price paid for our aid in WWI."

I have to say you have the *most* bizarro concept of history of anyone I have ever come across.

Irish War of Independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Irish_War


57 posted on 04/06/2006 8:30:00 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Unam Sanctam
"...they say a display of cultural unity is being mistaken as a lack of loyalty to the United States..."

So, the burning of the Stars and Stripes without condemnation of the perps was a sign of loyalty to the US? The US flag being hoisted upside down below Mexico's without condemnation of those perps was a sign of loyalty to this nation?

Yeah. Right.

58 posted on 04/06/2006 8:42:39 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: jk4hc4
"Possibly racist bigots."

Now, now. Don't you know you can't be both brown-skinned and a "racist bigot"?

59 posted on 04/06/2006 8:47:01 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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