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To: tonycavanagh
As for more repressive measures do you wish to see them enacted against the civilian population.

During World War 2, we incinerated Dresden and Tokyo using conventional weapons, and Hiroshima and Nagasaki using nukes, paying no mind that the vast majority of the people we killed were civilians, including women and children. We won the war through being willing to do anything we needed to do.

During the peak of the Cold War, we had THOUSANDS of nukes pointed at the Soviet Union, with the official policy that if we were attacked, we would incinerate their civilian population. Men, women, and children. It was sufficient deterrent that we did not experience WW3, nor have to surrender

If so will you both be happy to go out there and carry out acts of reprisals your self against civilians.

If it comes down to an existential war, I will do what is necessary to ensure the survival, in freedom, of my own people. I will avoid gratuitous violence, but I will employ any means necessary if the alternative is death or slavery

732 posted on 04/10/2006 4:29:01 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: SauronOfMordor; ZULU
Gentlemen, you are both wrong in your assessment

1) we are not losing, we are no where near losing.

2) While Iraq is not what we would call stable, it is more stable this year than this time last year, according to the latest intelligence and pentagon reports.

3) More ordinary Iraqi civilians are coming forward with local intelligence allowing us to build up a more accurate intelligence picture.

5)We are taking out more of the bad guys and discovering more of there logistics and ammo caches because of the local intelligence picture.

I see no reason to jeopardies this war and to end up losing it because of bad tactics because some people at home feel all scared over rubbish that is printed on the Internet.

Thankfully your military is made of sterner stuff

I want to win this war, and win this war we will.

And I will tell you why because those fighting this war have the same attitude and experience as me of fighting insurgencies and terrorism in a host of countries, in the European, African as well as Middle Eastern theater..

SauronOfMordor if you want to talk about the Second World War then you should comapre Phase 4 of Japan,Germany Iraq, not phase 2 of Germany Japan, and Phase 4 of Iraq.

And for those not in the know

Phase 1 Build Up

Phase 2 Air War (Softening up)

Phase 3 Invasion Ground phase.

Phase 4) Occupation.

Phase 2 in Japan was designed to allow us to go straight to phase 4 without the cost of Phase 3.

741 posted on 04/11/2006 1:06:14 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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