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To: sam_paine
The best I can determine is that unnamed Middle Eastern types---either AQ or Iraqi---either a) trained Nichols in bomb making (I can believe that) or b) were present at the OK City attack (I have more trouble believing that). According to the theory, apparently, one of them was "John Doe #3." I admit this guy looks like Jose Padilla.

I repeat, I have not read Davis, but I have looked at Minitier and Lance, both of whom are convinced that a) there is an AQ, b) they want to kill us, and c) Clinton did nothing. So these are hardly people who are "leftists." Nevertheless, neither is convinced of any kind of OK City link. Further, I read a debate with Stephen Hayward and Laurie Mylroie, and did not find the evidence persuasive when her theories were challenged.

This is so much like the JFK assassination in that when any "stream" of conspiracy theorists uncovers possibly important new evidence, it isn't rationally processed but rejected out of hand by other "streams" whose point of view will be destroyed if another point of view triumphs.

Personally, I want the truth, and I'm satisfied if that truth is that McVeigh and Nichols acted alone. Like you, I would welcome a ME connection to OK city. For one, it would prove Clinton horribly wrong. But objectively, I don't see it yet.

310 posted on 04/03/2006 7:12:57 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

I've pinged you three times now to a Washington Post article that you are 100% incorrect about Lance. He said unequivocably in that article that he believes there is a ME terrorism connection to the Murrah Building bombing.

Did you miss those pings or are you just ignoring evidence which contradicts your posts about Lance?


312 posted on 04/03/2006 7:15:38 PM PDT by Peach
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To: LS

In the course of his investigation, Lance revisits the bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, and he finds "a growing body of evidence" to suggest that Ramzi Yousef may have designed that truck bomb. He devotes a chapter to this possibility, citing potential connections between Yousef and Nichols (who was married to a Filipina). It also emerges that Murad -- Yousef's co-conspirator -- claimed responsibility for the 1995 Murrah Building bombing on the morning it happened. An FBI document confirms it. (Full disclosure: I've spoken to Peter Lance several times, after first hearing about his work-in-progress from a whistle-blower group that champions FBI reform.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52078-2003Sep9?language=printer


313 posted on 04/03/2006 7:17:26 PM PDT by Peach
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