Posted on 04/03/2006 8:13:43 AM PDT by doug from upland
Yup. As I recall I heard something to that effect quite a while ago. I have been riding the OKC hobby horse for some time. My congressman doesn't seem to be interested the President doesn't seem to be interested and the press is definately not interested.
This and the Iraq/AQ connections have been my primary interest as well and that the administration does not even talk about them drives me nuts.
The magazine includes an article with photo of Congressman Rohrabacher. I have scanned the relevent page of the magazine on my website - the image is so large I'm concerned about it causing FR to slow down so I'll post the link to the image along with the contents of the article.
http://www.lauramansfield.com/rblog/Rohrabacher_1998.jpg
April 3, 2006: What's the agenda?
Is Congressman Dana Rohrabacher's call for Congressional hearings into the April 1995 Oklahoma City attack an attempt to uncover the truth - or is his goal to once and for all hide the facts regarding the attack?
But does Rohrabacher, the man hailed in the above article from the October 1998 edition of the US-based Muslim Magazine for his record which "demonstrates his ongoing support of the Muslim community" have another agenda?
Questions posed by investigative journalist Jayna Davis, author of the book The Third Terrorist which explored the Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City bombing, indicate that the Congressman may not be attempting to uncover the entire truth.
Earlier today, through Freeper Doug from Upland, Jayna posed the questions listed below. They also asked:
Last year, David Schippers, famous for prosecuting both the Chicago mob and William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, flew to OKC to meet Jayna and her witnesses. Dave spent 12 hours grilling 14 of them on camera.
When he was finished, he told Jayna that, with just three of them, he would get a federal indictment of Hussain al-Hussaini in one day. FBI agent Dan Vogel told her he could do the same -- with one of her witnesses. That is how credible they were.
So why, Congressman Rohrabacher, did you tell Jayna that the committee has no budget to fly her to Washington, D.C.? What is the problem? Are we finally going to get the truth or is this grandstanding?
If this is an attempt to get to the whole truth, what harm can come from having Jayna Davis testify before Congress? What information are they afraid she might have about a Middle East connection?
In some ways, it's surprising that Rohrabacher, a man who received an award from the American Muslim Council. In fact, Rohrabacher has received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Muslim donors, some of whom are in prison now on terrorism-related charges.
Ken Timmerman wrote the following in a 2004 article in Front Page Magazine:
Foremost among those friends is Khaled Saffuri, a former government affairs director of the American Muslim Council who has coordinated contributions to Rohrabacher's re-election campaigns from Muslim donors, some of whom today are in federal prison on terrorism-related charges.
While at AMC, Saffuri worked under AMC Executive Director Abdulrahman Alamoudi, who was jailed last October on charges of illegally laundering money from the Libyan government. At a September 2000 rally in LafayettePark in front of the White House, Alamoudi led followers in chanting their support for Hamas and Lebanon's Hezbollah, both of which are considered as international terrorist organizations by the U.S. government.
As AMC's chief Washington lobbyist from 1995-1998, Saffuri worked to organize AMC members and contributors into an effective political force. Besides $10,400 in direct contributions he made to Rohrabacher's re-election campaigns, he helped raise another $24,000 for in direct contributions to Rohrabacher's campaign war chest from AMC members and sympathizers, according to publicly-available Federal Election Commission records compiled for this article.
Born to Palestinian parents, Saffuri has made a career in Washington, DC of putting a moderate face onto radical Islamic causes while mixing with a Wahhabi-inspired network of donors who include Alamoudi and former University of South Florida teacher Sami Al-Arian, who was jailed on Feb. 20, 2003 for his alleged involvement in the leadership of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, an outlawed terrorist group.
One of the responsibilities for Congress which it opens an investigation is to learn the truth - and by truth that means the entire truth.
Doesn't America deserve an answer once and for all to the question: Was there a Middle Eastern connection to the Oklahoma City bombing? Don't we owe the victims and survivors of this attack the answer?
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Sam_Paine, we all share your frustration that the OKC picture is not crystal clear -- even though several of us have spent years trying to make sense of it.
I, for one, specifically avoided the questions of "who?" and "why?", and left investigation of those to others while I concentrated on the "what happened?" and "how?". Even then, I was not able (with the avaiable evidence -- not sequestered or destroyed by Federal agencies) to arrive at a single, unequivocal conclusion.
What I did not start with, but was unable to avoid developing as I studied all the evidence, was the firm conclusion that the DOJ, BATF and FBI (at least) behaved very badly and dishonestly re the evidence.
I'll venture to say that everyone who has investigated the OKC bombing at length will agree with this: Anyone who starts with the OKC bombing and investigates in any direction soon finds themselves facing some very strange and frightening people -- and organizations.
Sorry, but, AFAIK, if you want a simple answer, you'll just have to dig it out for yourself. Just be ready to overcome many formidable obstacles!
Oh, and -- if you are successful -- please share the results with all of the rest of us... < no sarcasam -- at all -- intended>
All of the above. We've become so PC in this country that I don't see how we'll possibly win the war on terror. The jihadists won't defeat us. We'll defeat ourselves. We look like fools, imo, for some of the terrorist bill of rights stuff we've passed.
For crying out loud, not one thing that happened at Abu Graib was torture. Pretending dogs were going to bite but not letting them bite? Fake electrodes? Blankets over heads? Listening to obnoxious music? Sheesh. The jihadists must be laughing themselves sick.
On 9/11, within a few seconds, freepers said it was OBL. I was watching the news, channel surfing for information frantically because I have a stepbrother who worked in a building next to one of the towers, and not one of the anchors had a clue for a good 15-20 minutes. So all of what you said is correct, imo.
Doug - see #264 for a possible explanation about Rohrabacher.
StillProud2BeFree - thank you for your work on this and posting it here. I read the book Infiltration by Paul Sperry a few months ago and was pretty stunned at some of the names of people on our side of the aisle who were Muslim sympathizers. I don't remember Rohrabacher's name being in there, but it might have been.
You aren't kidding. There is a reporter who has followed the white supremist route. And Jayna who followed the Iraq route. IMO, neither of them is "wrong". Iraq said they'd use lily whites and proxies and who is more of a lily white than a white supremist?
BTTT
Powerful people protect powerful people.
Thanks, Doug. I may have had trouble finding a concise summary, cuz there may not be one!!!! Here's what I've done so far (below.) I'm down to 600 words, but I'm still missing McVeigh's motive for "taking credit" etc.
I'm not being lazy, and Peach is really ticking me off about this! There are things and threads and all sorts of things that I have read over time that confuse me. Like, whatever happened to Padilla being John Doe #2? Forgive me if I've not kept up, but I'd like to!
You forgot taking a prisoner's peanut butter and eating it in front of him.
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That's a decent summary. There's tons more that could be included, of course, but I wouldn't want to tick you off :-)
You could take out many of the words and do an outline with bullet points.
What?? Are you kidding? I hadn't heard that one. Some days I absolutely despair at our stupidity. When I tell people there was no torture at Abu Graib, they don't believe it. So I challenge them to go find one instance of torture. Maybe they missed the peanut incident :-)
Good idea about the bullet points for the summary. You could search for doug's posts today on this thread; snippets from the book and witness testimony that were mostly one or two sentences and worthwhile to be included in your summary.
I could do that for you, if you'd like, but it will have to be tomorrow. Let me know if you'd like me to do that; I really wasn't trying to make you mad but didn't get what you didn't get, if you know what I mean.
Here's an example... What happened to Jose Padilla being John Doe #2? That made sense to me early on, now this Al-Hussaini guy makes sense. Who's who?
So you're telling us it has to be simple or you don't believe it? Or can't follow it?
Is that kind of belittling really necessary? At least -I- am trying to do something constructive.
Aha! So now you want to be nice!?!? Well two can play the nice game. ;-P
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