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To: Luis Gonzalez
Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to.

That's because those tax returns are fraudulent. I should know I uncovered several of those phoney refund tax return schemes, ALL of them perpetrated by hispanics, during the time I worked for the IRS. (Though I know those schemes were not the exclusive domain of hispanics) I would venture a guess the FICA and withholding taxes on those W-2's was never actually paid--it's imaginary money--monopoly money. Just look at the increase in delinquent taxes on the IRS's books--who do you think owes it?

The IRS hasn't been able to match W-2 and withholding tax returns on a current basis until just very recently. They were always at least 3 years behind in the decade and a half I personally witnessed. BTW, if the SSN's are bogus, they can't be tracked to an employer, and the employers probably don't exist either.

In the current decade, the file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes.

Even if true this means we could buy about 24 F-16's a year with this money, if it existed. Hardly a net gain when you should subtract out the social costs imposed by the illegals.

Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002.

In other words, a SWAG. Not scientific or accurate enough to crow about. I know some illegals contribute to the tax base (sort of) because I do the accounting for a restaurant chain that employes about 1,800 people, a good many of them hispanic, and I'm sure some of them are illegal. But I don't feel sorry for these people, they're averaging $10 an hour flipping burgers. When I was 17 I did it for $1.10 an hour. Even if I consult the Census Bureau's database I won't be able to tell how many of them are or aren't filing their tax returns.

My point is, even if all the money in the Suspense fund is real, and the illegals were responsible for ALL of it, it still does not offset the costs they impose on our society.

493 posted on 03/31/2006 6:59:27 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Auntie Dem
"...if it existed..."

You're only willing to believe the things that support what you already believe.

Have a nice da.

495 posted on 03/31/2006 7:07:28 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Auntie Dem; All
The IRS hasn't been able to match W-2 and withholding tax returns on a current basis until just very recently.

And eventually the truth bears out. The "illegal" aspect is that some people have been adjudicated--by the bedrock bastion of justice known as the IRS--to be "illegal". Heck, lets do away with the United States Supreme Court. Everyone can choose to amend their IRS return without penalty (or due process). The economic and societal impacts are all-important. Silly rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are so passe'. But do not forget to appropriate another $100 billion or so for a bunch of ungrateful ragheads in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is the conservative way....

504 posted on 03/31/2006 7:26:27 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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