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Immigration and the GOP Is it still the party of Reagan, or of Tom Tancredo?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 3/31/2006 | Review and OUtlook

Posted on 03/31/2006 3:41:14 AM PST by pageonetoo

As Congress battles over immigration, the consequences are likely to be far greater than the details of border walls or green cards. The most important political outcome may turn out to be the message that Republicans send about the kind of the party they are and hope to be.

To wit, do Republicans want to continue in the Reagan tradition of American optimism and faith in assimilation that sends a message of inclusiveness to all races? Or will they take another one of their historical detours into a cramped, exclusionary policy that tells millions of new immigrants, and especially Hispanics, that they belong somewhere else?...

...The immediate danger is that Republicans will ignore their longer-term interests by passing a punitive, and poll-driven, anti-immigration bill this election year. Any bill that merely harasses immigrants and employers, and stacks more cops on the border, may win cheers in the right-wing blogosphere. However, it will do nothing to address the economic incentives that will continue to exist for poor migrants to come to America to feed their families. And it will make permanent enemies of millions of Hispanics, without doing anything to draw illegals out of the shadows and help them assimilate into the mainstream of American culture and citizenship.

This is not Ronald Reagan's view of America as a "shining city on a hill." It is the chauvinist conservatism usually associated with the European right. How Republicans conduct and conclude their immigration debate will show the country which kind of "conservative" party they want to be.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gop; illegalimmigration; illegals; invaders; rino; wsj
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To: pageonetoo
Is it still the party of Reagan, or of Tom Tancredo?

Reagan was then.
Tancredo is now.

Times have changed, as has the nature of immigration. If we are blind to those changes, we stand to be overwhelmed.

I will vote for Tancredo over _any_ other Republican name on a primary ballot.

- John

201 posted on 03/31/2006 1:44:39 PM PST by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman
I would definitely vote for Tancredo. I can't imagine what idiots would promote McCain, or any other of the tepid entries being revealed. I prefer his passion.

I would love to see he and George Allen on the ticket, and would not care which was on top! But, first we have to get past November 2006!

202 posted on 03/31/2006 1:56:51 PM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
"A nation without borders is not a nation"
RW Reagan
203 posted on 03/31/2006 1:59:09 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
"A nation without borders is not a nation"

We ceased being a real nation, when the SOTUS began attacking our constitution, and found a "penumbra' emanating from it...

We are reaping what has been sewn. IMO, the only solution is a constitutional convention, but God only knows what the results would be. There are too few patriots, and too many special interests!..

204 posted on 03/31/2006 2:01:52 PM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
All the signs are in English. Not bad for a bunch of people who "refuse" to learn the language.


SOURCE

SOURCE

205 posted on 03/31/2006 5:02:49 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: Dane
Ronald Reagan wanted line item veto.

If Reagan would have had line item veto, amnesty for 3rd world, Leftist, Liberal, illegal aliens would have been dead on arrival.

The Liberal Democrat congress that Reagan had to work with shoved amnesty down his throat.

As Bush is so fond of saying every time he opens his mouth, "Make no mistake about it." This time it's Bush shoving amnesty down ours.

206 posted on 03/31/2006 5:03:37 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Funny, I didn't see anyone pressuring him. I was against what he did at the time.

During his speech? You expected to see someone pressuring him during his speech?

207 posted on 03/31/2006 5:08:34 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: sinkspur
"No he didn't. He signed the amnesty willingly."

He signed it, because he had to work with a Liberal Democrat controlled congress to get anything done. Congress promised Reagan it would be the last amnesty.

Buchanan was part of Reagan's administration.

Reagan wouldn't have hired 'W' to empty the waste baskets.

209 posted on 03/31/2006 5:19:22 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
He signed it, because he had to work with a Liberal Democrat controlled congress to get anything done. Congress promised Reagan it would be the last amnesty.

He should have vetoed it based on the merits of the word amnesty.

210 posted on 03/31/2006 5:21:06 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: 4Freedom
Reagan wouldn't have hired 'W' to empty the waste baskets.

He hired his daddy to be his VP, and Bush is a much better president than his father was.

211 posted on 03/31/2006 5:32:36 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: 4Freedom

W and Reagan were good friends, and he thought quite a bit of GW. They actually spent time together in the Whitehouse... can you imagine? Of course you can call me a liar like a certain mother on here, but Michael Reagan is my source on this.

LLS


212 posted on 03/31/2006 6:15:04 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: pageonetoo
More immigrants especially illegal ones means more democrats..
Who could in good concience be for THAT..

WHAT?... the republican party and White House?..
Yeah yer right.. Darn.. How'd THAT happen..

213 posted on 03/31/2006 6:21:06 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
re: post 196 For them to remake the U.S. in Mexico's image does not strike me as something they are likely to want to do.

They most assuredly will (though they may not want to). They lack the Jeffersonian gene and 'their' country wallows in crap. Wealth abounds in the same sphere as massive peasantry. Government corruption and zero education are contributors to this mess.

In their country, the peasants are rightfully communist sympathizers, but in our country, they're the f**king enemy.

Now, that may depend upon how well our current leaders (elected elites) adhere to the orignal 'plan' as envisioned 200 years ago and to the extent it is implemented.

Should they stray further into the land of 'collectivism', then perhaps the masses of peasant undesirables would be welcome to bring about their master plan. Peasant meet Globalist.

If, however, they should come to their senses and realize America-(it's sovereignty) is worth preserving at all cost, then these Red, White, and Green flag bearers had better prepare to have flags shoved up their hynies.

214 posted on 03/31/2006 7:21:00 PM PST by budwiesest (The law of the jungle has yet to be overturned.)
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To: sinkspur
Neither Bush Sr., Bill Clinton or Jimmy 'freakin' Carter drove our country into an additional 3 TRILLION DOLLARS worth of debt in only 6 years or failed us so badly on both our borders that there are 3 MILLION ILLEGAL CROSSINGS EVERY YEAR!

Anybody that thinks that's good is nuts.

215 posted on 03/31/2006 7:57:40 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If Reagan would have had a Republican controlled congress, there wouldn't have been any amnesty.

Our borders would have been securred.

We wouldn't even be talking about surrendering to Mexico.

216 posted on 03/31/2006 8:00:54 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Neither Bush Sr., Bill Clinton or Jimmy 'freakin' Carter drove our country into an additional 3 TRILLION DOLLARS worth of debt in only 6 years or failed us so badly on both our borders that there are 3 MILLION ILLEGAL CROSSINGS EVERY YEAR!

So go vote for a Democrat.

The War on Terror, which we did not choose to start, must mean nothing to you, since all you seem to care about is money.

217 posted on 03/31/2006 8:04:06 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Reagan was good friends with Gorbachev, too.

I doubt Reagan would have hired him either.

218 posted on 03/31/2006 8:07:10 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: sinkspur
Security starts at home for me.

Bush drove our Nation $3 TRILLION DOLLARS more into debt and we don't even have our borders secured, because the $10 or $20 billion it would require is just too high a price for Bush to pay for our own security when he's squandering TRILLIONS on everybody Else's.

219 posted on 03/31/2006 8:15:40 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
Yeah. I've heard all that before.

If it had been up to you green-eyeshade-types, Reagan would never have built up our defenses to win the Cold War.

220 posted on 03/31/2006 8:20:25 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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