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Whose Backlash?
RealClear Politics ^ | 03/31/06 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/31/2006 1:41:16 AM PST by peyton randolph

Most Americans I talked to in California summed up their reactions to the marches as something like, 'Why would anyone wave the flag of the country that they would never return to--and yet scream in anger at those with whom they wish to stay?' Depending on the particular questions asked, polls reveal that somewhere around 60-80% of the public is vehemently opposed to illegal immigration.

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There are over 300 million resident Americans, and the vast majority of them are citizens. Had the demonstrators marched chanting "God Bless America," confined their flag waving to Old Glory, and expressed thanks to a magnanimous United States that gave them a second chance when a corrupt Mexico has precluded their first, then they would have won public support.

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Yes, illegal immigration provides a valuable source of cheap labor. But such jobs are not just those Americans will never take, but comprise work that they won't seek out at such cheap wages. Where compensation rises, citizen workers will follow.

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Unless we curb the present influx, return to the melting pot, and salvage a legal remedy from the present illegal disaster, what we saw this week may only be the beginning of something far more dangerous from both sides of this avoidable crisis.


 

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; aztlan; borderlist; closethebordersnow; illegals; immigration; mexico; nacos; nationalsecurity; reconquista; vdh; victordavishanson
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No amnesty. Not now. Not ever. Secure the borders. Deport. Bring in legal immigrants who stood in line to get here, have more to contribute, and want to assimilate.

This is the United States...not Los Estados Unidos Mexicanos.

1 posted on 03/31/2006 1:41:17 AM PST by peyton randolph
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To: peyton randolph
The Liberals scream that this is "the worst economy since the Depression," but at the same time call for the Amnesty of the 11+ million illegals in this country because they are doing jobs that America needs (i.e., cutting lawns, etc.)

Can anyone explain the logic of a Liberal?

2 posted on 03/31/2006 2:04:12 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (A Liberal by any other name is still a Hypocrite)
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To: peyton randolph

How ironic. The illegals demand reconquista as the Senate provides more sanctuary. The mind boggles.


3 posted on 03/31/2006 2:06:43 AM PST by Rapscallion (Only a temporary tax is more permanent than a temporary worker.)
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To: peyton randolph

The whole thing makes me sick. Did you see what those little stinkers did with our flag at Montebello HS?


4 posted on 03/31/2006 2:16:57 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("Life is a box of chocolates. Eat them before they eat you ".---me.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Did you see what those little stinkers did with our flag at Montebello HS?
Yes. They should have been knee-capped and deported. Hard to cross the border without functional knees.
5 posted on 03/31/2006 2:35:51 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: La Enchiladita; goldstategop

*PING*

VDH is the author of "Mexifornia."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594030561/sr=8-1/qid=1143802320/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1207430-5754363?%5Fencoding=UTF8


6 posted on 03/31/2006 2:51:38 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: peyton randolph; ConservativeStLouisGuy; Lunatic Fringe
SPUE (Society for the Prevention of Unnecessary Excerpting; check the list) to the rescue once again:
March 31, 2006

Whose Backlash?

By Victor Davis Hanson

Hundreds of thousands of Mexican citizens, along with Mexican-Americans and Hispanics in general, hit the streets throughout the United States this past week in one of the largest displays of public outrage since the Vietnam-War era.

The conventional wisdom was that the supposedly spontaneous outbursts of immigrant pride and anger took lawmakers by surprise. In response, politicians may backtrack on some of the tougher proposals concerning border enforcement, from constructing a wall to deportations. The media tended to emphasize the heartfelt anguish of the demonstrators, who often on selected televised clips carried American flags and were shown reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

But here in Central California that is not the public face of the demonstrations that we saw--which were mostly angry and, in the case of truant high-school students, so often unfortunately characterized by Mexican chauvinism, if not overt racism of the La Raza ("the race") type. And while these public outbursts were for the present just noisy, the private counter-reactions to them, I fear, are going to grow larger and angrier still.

If many thousands of illegal aliens marched in their zeal, many more millions of Americans of all different races and backgrounds watched--and seethed. They were struck by the Orwellian incongruities--Mexican flags, chants of "Mexico, Mexico," and the spectacle of illegal alien residents lecturing citizen hosts on what was permissible in their own country.

If the demonstrators thought that they were bringing attention to their legitimate grievances--the sheer impossibility of deporting 11 million residents across the border or the hypocrisy of Americans de facto profiting from "illegals" who cook their food, make their beds, and cut their lawns--they seemed oblivious to the embarrassing contradictions of their own symbolism and rhetoric. Most Americans I talked to in California summed up their reactions to the marches as something like, 'Why would anyone wave the flag of the country that they would never return to--and yet scream in anger at those with whom they wish to stay?' Depending on the particular questions asked, polls reveal that somewhere around 60-80% of the public is vehemently opposed to illegal immigration.

When schools were dismissed due to student walkouts and traffic disrupted, Americans began to see the wages of their own indifference to the problems of illegal immigration. Insidiously over the last 30 years we have allowed an entire apartheid community to grow up in enclaves in the American Southwest and occasionally beyond--one by language and psyche that may well feel more romantically attached to the Mexico it left and won't return to the United States it sought out and must stay in.

To understand the backlash to all this that is rising, think back to the 2003 California recall election for governor. When it was clear that Gray Davis had lost public support and was finished, for a while it looked as if Democratic Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante might well be a shoo-in. After all, California was a solidly blue state, and the Republican challengers, actor and political novice Arnold Schwarzenegger and the unknown State Senator Tom McClintock, would probably split the minority Republican vote.

But then Bustamante very quickly began to scare the electorate. He was unapologetic about his past MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán) ties, even when that otherwise irrelevant radical student group's mottos and separatist constitution found their way into the public discourse. He tried to redefine his unsavory fund-raising with the Indian gaming industry as a point of ethnic pride, promised driver's licenses for illegal aliens, and then aired seemingly suicidal television ads showing him shouting to Latino crowds in a sea of waving red flags.

At the time I remember a liberal friend of mine from the Bay Area calling up, rather shaken, asking in disbelief, "Who is this guy and why does he always scream to screamers?" Bustamante was subsequently trounced and couldn't receive a third of the vote from a liberal electorate that, he apparently forgot, once passed overwhelmingly ballot propositions banning state aid to illegal aliens, racial preferences in hiring, and bilingual education.

Something of the same backlash may soon follow these demonstrations. There are over 300 million resident Americans, and the vast majority of them are citizens. Had the demonstrators marched chanting "God Bless America," confined their flag waving to Old Glory, and expressed thanks to a magnanimous United States that gave them a second chance when a corrupt Mexico has precluded their first, then they would have won public support.

As for as the immigration debate itself, we all know the truth that we suppress and the lies that we voice. Language has been the first casualty of our disingenuousness. "Illegal alien" is a descriptive, not a racist, term. In contrast, "undocumented worker" is deliberately misleading, since in most cases documents were never at issue, and not all aliens are workers. "Racism" has nothing to do with a failed system that appalls Asian- and African-Americans alike, as well as bewilders frustrated and patient Koreans, Punjabis, Africans, and Filipinos who did not cut ahead in the long legal immigration line. "Nativist" means nothing when Americans presently welcome in more legal immigrants that any other nation on earth.

Yes, illegal immigration provides a valuable source of cheap labor. But such jobs are not just those Americans will never take, but comprise work that they won't seek out at such cheap wages. Where compensation rises, citizen workers will follow.

Yes, most aliens work hard, but a small minority of them do not, and find themselves involved in criminal activity. And given the large pool of illegal immigrants from Mexico, that small minority can still reach several thousands--such as the nearly 15,000 aliens currently locked up in the California penal system alone, at a cost of a half-billion public dollars a year.

Yes, immigrants contribute more than receive--but mostly when they are young, single, and hale. As they age, become ill, marry, and have children, those without education, English, and legality naturally draw on entitlements for a semblance of parity with American citizens otherwise impossible for such minimum wage earners.

So what fails and what works? Bilingual education in our schools, multicultural romance about a mythical Aztlan in our universities, guest worker programs that institutionalize helot status, salad-bowl separatism, and millions who cross the border illegally, all have contributed to the present disaster. But as we see with second- and third-generation model Mexican-American citizens, English immersion, acceptance of an American identity, integration, intermarriage and assimilation, legal and monitored immigration in the thousands from Mexico--all that guarantees immigrants success and energizes us the host.

Americans recoil at the volatile ethnic enclaves in France and the Netherlands--and can understand how such tribalism could quickly escalate to sectarian violence in Iraq, the Balkans, and Rwanda. Unless we curb the present influx, return to the melting pot, and salvage a legal remedy from the present illegal disaster, what we saw this week may only be the beginning of something far more dangerous from both sides of this avoidable crisis.

Victor Davis Hanson is a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the author of Mexifornia. A State of Becoming (Encounter 2003).

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7 posted on 03/31/2006 2:53:40 AM PST by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: upchuck
Thank you for posting the entire article. Hanson is right, but offers no specific plan of his own. The President in dead set on trying to please everyone (he travels to Mexico to unveil his immigration proposal -- why? Who is he trying to please most of all?

I am more frightened of a weak-willed White House than I am of any invasion or insurrection, because the people themselves can handle the latter. And, for the first time in 62 months, I will SUPPORT a Republican-led revolt against the President I worked and voted for! I can see no point in passing any 'reform' that includes yet another amnesty for law-breakers.

(**Deep sigh of regret**)

8 posted on 03/31/2006 3:25:02 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Mass immigration and mass indoctrination of illegals is the current marxist strategy to gain power.)
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To: peyton randolph
This is the United States...not Los Estados Unidos Mexicanos

Unfortunately, our government will fail us on this issue. We are truly witnessing a process that will rip apart this once great Republic. Unless a leader arises with the strength and courage to lead Congress and the nation to act decisively, we are doomed. Seeing the Mexican flag flying in this country in defiance made my blood boil. It would be easy to deport millions of illegals -- we just need the will. WWII was much more difficult and we arose to the occasion. The idiots who say it is impossible only wish to our Republic die (to their joy)

9 posted on 03/31/2006 3:29:13 AM PST by liberty2004
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To: liberty2004

I saw a man on O'Reilly last night, he was debating Michelle Malkin and he finally fessed up to what their plan is. It's to turn North America into a European Union. Which means, we will have open borders, the US will provide all of the work, our people can reap all of the benefits like healthcare and education etc. and we (the mexican goverment) won't have to be responsible for anything. Just like it is now.

The Mexican goverment has alot at stake here, basically their whole economy, money wired back is second only to oil revenue. They have come to rely on the sugar teat of the US. Too bad, it's time to end it now.

Oh, and another thing that just flabbergasted me, a caller suggested to Sean Hannity that the mexican people reform their own goverment. His response was, it would be to hard and take generations. Thank god Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Ben Franklin et al didn't think that way!!!!!!!


10 posted on 03/31/2006 3:49:07 AM PST by panthermom
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To: peyton randolph
- An open border with a turd world country

- A Republican President kissing the butt of a turd world dictator

- A dead asleep congress, completely out of touch with the majority of americans and

- Never having to waste time voting again-priceless...

12 posted on 03/31/2006 4:08:44 AM PST by austinite
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To: Cowboy Bob

Liberalism is logic free. It is based upon emotion and feeling.


13 posted on 03/31/2006 4:13:31 AM PST by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: upchuck
When schools were dismissed due to student walkouts and traffic disrupted, Americans began to see the wages of their own indifference to the problems of illegal immigration.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

More than immigration Americans are indifferent to the indoctrination that goes on in our government schools.

If we had rational schools children would not have been permitted to leave their government schools, and if they did so they would have suffered consequences.

Solution: Begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education. Even then it might be too late since it is the liberal-Marxist types who are drawn to the profession of teaching.
14 posted on 03/31/2006 4:26:38 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: peyton randolph

A general observation\prediction: '06 will be remembered as the year the shite hit the fan.


15 posted on 03/31/2006 4:39:36 AM PST by TalBlack (I WON'T suffer the journalizing or editorializing of people who are afraid of the enemies of freedom)
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To: upchuck; B4Ranch; calcowgirl

Multiculturalism, says VDH? It's alive and well right here on FR. Who knew?


16 posted on 03/31/2006 4:39:48 AM PST by John Filson
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To: Cowboy Bob



I have tried to understand why President Bush has had such a tin ear to this problem

This past week, everything became crystal clear.

This is about nothing more than money.

If we use the conservative figure of 11,000,000 illegals and we charge them $ 2,000 to buy their citizenship, we are looking at over $ 2,000,000,000.

This money will disappear just like the tobacco money disappeared.

Any time a problem arises, I try to give the President the benefit of the doubt, because I genuinely like him so much.Unfortunately, for me, this is the last straw.

President Bush is not a true conservative.

Bring back President Ronald Reagan.


17 posted on 03/31/2006 4:41:53 AM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: panthermom
"It's to turn North America into a European Union. Which means, we will have open borders, the US will provide all of the work, our people can reap all of the benefits like healthcare and education etc. and we (the mexican goverment) won't have to be responsible for anything. Just like it is now. "


I learned this as well last week listening to a local radio program in KCMO. A local editor of a Spanish paper was being interviewed about the 1,000 or so that showed up in a KCKS park protest called a Day without Latinos. The vast majority are not interesting in becoming citizens, they are demanding no border, come and go as they wish. They want the benefits of being US citizens but are not demanding citizenship.
18 posted on 03/31/2006 4:48:56 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: babydoll22
Bush was never a conservative, but would you really have voted for algore or kerry(vietnam?)?

I really worry that we have created our own little plo or is it mlo??? This threat I don't think I can ignore.

19 posted on 03/31/2006 4:55:26 AM PST by cb
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To: peyton randolph
Why are the Unions staying so quiet on this? I have to wonder if there is not the anticipation that once the illegals are made legal the next push will be to raise that minimum wage again and unionize the newly legal workers.
20 posted on 03/31/2006 5:14:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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