Posted on 03/29/2006 8:13:24 PM PST by conservativecorner
It reads like a page directly out of the Democrat's playbook on midterm elections. Let Republicans self-destruct by splitting from their base on a core issue. Senate Republicans this week will decide if the federal government will respond to 89 percent of Americans who believe illegal immigration is a serious problem.
Any bill that does not refuse amnesty, and require true border and internal enforcement will collapse public confidence in the GOP Congress, and therefore be the breaking point of the Republican Party. The bill passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee rewards lawbreakers with amnesty, plain and clear.
The temporary worker/amnesty bill from the Senate Judiciary Committee will cause every Democrat in Congress will jump onto it, because they know that this single issue is the opportunity to divide and conquer. If anything costs Republicans the majority this November, it will be this amnesty bill in the Senate that they are trying to force-feed to Congress and the American people.
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I think it would be brilliant strategy to drive the Latino community into the arms of the Dems
Every Dem site I see worry the Republican opposition to Bush/Kennedy is a plot to drive Democrat voters to the Republicans in November.
I've seen that too, after all it's just the "elites" of both parties in favor of amnesty.
The rats are going to divide and conquer themselves most likely. For one thing a significant percentage of their own voter base oppose amnesty. The AFL-CIO is likely to dump the rats if they push through an amnesty bill with the rinos.
The ones that busted their butts and played by the rules (and can vote) are against allowing these gate crashers to just waltz into what they worked hard for.
The Dems don't get any of the illegals as voters until if and when they are sworn in. McCain & Kennedy are trying to set that up.
Republicans just need to stick to their guns. On Immigration most people want border enforcement.
Pure propaganda and myth
They're already there, for the most part. Those who are not are, by-and-large, middle to upper class. Amnesty is deliberate ploy being used by the elites on both sides of the aisle to marginalize and attack the conservative Republican base, and blue-collar democrats who together comprise 80% of American citizens.
Amnesty is a 50/50 issue for Hispanic citizens, and will cost the Republicans more Hispanic votes by supporting it.
OTOH - Passing amnesty will create 12-20 million instant Democrats, and permanently marginalize the GOP conservative base.
I believe that as well, and , as you said, in BOTH parties.
This is one of those cases where the big-timers decide that they are right, no matter what anyone says, and they will go ahead with their wrong ideas, hoping they can cover it with excuses and spin.
I don't think that the elites of both parties should be lumped together. The 'elites' of the Democrat party want full amnesty that leads to full citizenship. The 'elites' on the Republican party want "guest worker" programs that don't lead to citizenship. There is a huge difference in those two.
Even though I have come to a point where I don't like either of their approaches, I'm not going to lump any Republicans in with the Democrats because if we only had a choice of these two options, the Republican 'elite' option is still way superior to the Democrat 'elite' option.
Democrats Will Use Immigration to Divide and Conquerby Rep. Steve King
Posted Mar 28, 2006 It reads like a page directly out of the Democrat's playbook on midterm elections. Let Republicans self-destruct by splitting from their base on a core issue. Senate Republicans this week will decide if the federal government will respond to 89 percent of Americans who believe illegal immigration is a serious problem.
Any bill that does not refuse amnesty, and require true border and internal enforcement will collapse public confidence in the GOP Congress, and therefore be the breaking point of the Republican Party. The bill passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee rewards lawbreakers with amnesty, plain and clear.
The temporary worker/amnesty bill from the Senate Judiciary Committee will cause every Democrat in Congress will jump onto it, because they know that this single issue is the opportunity to divide and conquer. If anything costs Republicans the majority this November, it will be this amnesty bill in the Senate that they are trying to force-feed to Congress and the American people.
In the face of bitter opposition from the majority of American citizens, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed a bill to reward millions of illegal aliens with legal worker status -- despite the fact these aliens have already proven their disregard for the laws of this nation. Beyond sending a message to potential residents and legal immigrants that we don't take our own laws seriously, this is a misguided and dangerous path for our nation, particularly in a post 9/11 world.
Any policy that reduces or eliminates the penalty for violating our immigration laws is amnesty. It is disingenuous for any lawmaker to claim they are against amnesty, but support these temporary worker amnesty programs.
Economically, these programs don't help our country, but hinder its growth. Americans are conditioned to believe that illegal aliens support our workforce, because they supposedly take jobs Americans will not do. The reality is, employers hire illegal workers who will work for much less than legal workers, driving wages down and making it impossible for legal workers to compete. There is no job Americans will not do. The hottest, most difficult, dirtiest and dangerous job in the world is rooting terrorists out of Fallujah. Marines are doing that job for $8.09 an hour.
The core of the strength of America has always been an ever-broadening middle class. The flood of immigration, both legal and illegal threatens an eventual destruction of the middle class and is resulting in the creation of a servant class. We cannot stand by while our middle class is eroded so that the ruling class in America can create a servant class for themselves.
We can stop illegal workers from taking jobs in the U.S. My New Illegal Deduction Elimination Act, or New IDEA, H.R. 3095, would eliminate the tax deduction employers can take on wages and benefits paid to illegal workers so it becomes a taxable event. The result would be to raise the cost of a $10 per hour illegal to a $16 per hour worker, creating the opportunity for American workers, shutting down the jobs magnet and broadening our middle class.
In addition, it would be ludicrous to base our national and economic security policy on the promise that temporary workers will return home once their worker permit expires. There has never been a successful temporary worker program in history.
History has proven time and again that legalizing the illegals won't solve the problem, it only serves to exacerbate it. Since 1986, Congress has passed seven amnesties for illegal aliens. The mass amnesty bill passed in 1986 that legalized 3 million aliens backfired, and the illegal alien population quickly doubled in a decade and tripled in less than 15 years. Further, dangling the prospect of citizenship in front of potential lawbreakers will only spur a mad stampede for the U.S. border to get in line for the next amnesty.
As a sovereign nation, we must control our borders and enforce our own laws. Ignoring our laws is not the path to maintaining a free, safe and prosperous society.
The House passed a comprehensive immigration reform policy in December that provides tools to secure America's future. H.R. 4437 does not reward any amnesty program and includes heavier border enforcement and construction of a border fence. The bill also provides for real enforcement in our interior, reduces the jobs magnet by requiring worker verification, and invokes penalties for local governments that provide sanctuary for illegal aliens.
The Senate must use these provisions as a baseline for their debate. This issue has pushed fed-up Americans to the abyss, and if we don't take the right turn, we deserve to be pushed into it.
I will never again vote for a Republican who votes in favor of a bill that grants amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens.
Eighty-nine percent of Americans is comprised of quite a few dems who oppose this as well. Does that mean both parties will split?
They're already there.
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I'd like to join up...
They want to cater to the 89% or whatever of the American public who want control of illegal immigration, and they want to cater to Latino voters.
Being savvy politicians who know what is most important to America, that being their own reelection, they have contrived an elegant tap dance. They ramble and they bloviate, they conjure up images of civil rights and the tired and huddled masses, and they expound upon their ramblings and bloviations. In short, they wax philosophical while saying nothing, exactly.
Their hope is that both sides, the border closers and the Latino hopefuls, will read in their ramblings and bloviations that hey, this guy is on our side.
They need to take a principled and enthusiastic position on one side or the other. It is not hard for me, a common nobody, to take a position. Why is it so hard for someone addicted to Washington DC? You either want to close the open border or you don't. There is plenty of time to consider issues such as separated families, good people vs bad people, economic pressures, perceptions of discrimination etc. All that in good time.
You either want to close the wide open borders, or you don't. Pick your side and weigh in.
CINO's are using the issue too.
A nation without enforceable borders is no nation at all.
Even though I have come to a point where I don't like either of their approaches, I'm not going to lump any Republicans in with the Democrats because if we only had a choice of these two options, the Republican 'elite' option is still way superior to the Democrat 'elite' option.
US legal citizens will be disenfranchised because those whom receive amnesty will end up with twice the voting power as legal citizens. Mexican nationals will be able to vote for US president, and as dual citizens also participate in Mexican Elections. There is no provision for the illegal immigrant to renounce citizenship in any of these uninvited guest amnesty programs.
For all realistic purposes, the Mexican government is governing in the southwest but US citizens have no voice in these affairs. For example, consular cards issued by Mexico are valid IDs, and they lobby to create laws such as amnesty, and other social programs. They are working with trucking and ports, building a new port in Mexico to service the US. The Mexican government is making decisions effecting everyday life here in US proper, and their role will only increase,
Yet, even with the effects of Mexican government touching every legal US citizen, we are not eligible to participate in Mexican elections. In this future country without borders there is no plan for us to be represented equally, yet legal citizens will be paying most of the taxes for all the social services and new infrastructure that will be required.
With this scenario it really wont matter if the GOP losses or gains votes, the two party system and your vote will be irrelevant.
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