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Is America ready for another George? (George Allen)
Town Hall ^ | Mar 28, 2006 | Eliot Peace

Posted on 03/29/2006 11:02:37 AM PST by Sonny M

Senator George Allen (R-VA), the third subject in Townhall.com’s series on potential 2008 presidential contenders, visited South Carolina this past Friday. As keynote speaker, Allen drew in the crowds to a fundraiser for Ralph Norman, Republican candidate for South Carolina’s 5th Congressional District. After his speech, Allen sat down with Townhall.com to discuss his thoughts on today’s issues and what the future holds for conservative politics. Included here are excerpts from both the speech and exclusive interview.

COLUMBIA, SC -- George Allen is a serious contender for the Republican nomination for president. A former governor, he wears cowboy boots and can often be found outside with his can of dip. Consequently, some Republicans like Allen, because he seems the most like George W. Bush—a charge Allen can’t quite understand, and frankly, rejects. "I don’t know why people say that," he said. "My two role models are Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan. Most people who know me think I’m most like Ronald Reagan." At the start of his speech, Allen proclaimed himself a "common sense, Jeffersonian conservative" and later quoted Patrick Henry. In fact, his talking points on government were so similar to Reagan’s that it seemed as if he had just read a few of the Gipper’s speeches on the way down to South Carolina.

Allen passionately emphasized his Reagenesque fiscal conservatism and Jeffersonian ideals on limited government. Most of his speech focused on lessening government and lowering the burdens placed on businesses. It is business, he said, that really drives the American economy: "Free people should be able to make free decisions."

He added, "Government doesn’t create jobs […] but government should get the field ready." In other words, government should get out of the way.

One way for government to get out of the way is to lower taxes. "Washington doesn’t have a revenue problem; Washington has a spending problem," he said. "The taxpayers are the owners of the government. That’s who we [Congress] work for."

When asked if the Senate would take up tax reform in the near future, he replied, "Nothing has been proposed as far as legislation goes. Our focus right now needs to be on extending the tax cuts: the capital gains cut, the dividend cut, and the elimination of the death tax, which sunsets in 2010." Tax cuts equate to economic growth. He added, "The tax cuts since 2001 have created 5 million new jobs in the private sector."

Allen went on to argue that Congress should view the taxpayers’ money as its own and spend it frugally, just as members would spend their own paychecks. "We need to look at things and see if it is absolutely necessary to spend the taxpayers’ money," Allen argued.

Allen not only identified the problems with the government, but he offered some innovative solutions. He suggested a federal line-item veto. "I had it as governor of Virginia, and the president should have it as well.”

Allen is also an advocate of a federal balance budget amendment. "We need a balanced budget amendment in Congress." He added, "49 states required balanced budgets, so why doesn’t the federal government?" Ultimately, he has decided, "We need to focus on what’s essential: national defense and the military […] then we need to bind down Congress with the Constitution."

Perhaps his most innovative suggestion is the "Paycheck Penalty." Congress often doesn’t pass the appropriations bills in time and adds millions of dollars worth of pork spending at the last minute. "If Congress does not pass the appropriations bill by October 1, the start of the new fiscal year, [congressmen’s] paychecks will be withheld. It’s their job; they need to get it done."

"Of course," he added laughingly, "that didn’t get a lot of support."

Allen also touched on immigration. He replied, "First and foremost, we need to secure our borders. They have been neglected." He highlighted the need for more personnel, more fences (both real and virtual), and more detention centers. "I don’t think we should reward illegal behavior […] you must punish illegal behavior, or you’ll get more illegal behavior." He also replied, "I’m not for amnesty […] I’m for immigration, but it must be legal immigration."

Of course, Allen couldn’t visit South Carolina and not field tough questions on social issues. When asked about abortion, he stated, "That should be decided by the states." He seemed to think the South Dakota ban is too strict and added, "I personally would add an exemption for rape and incest." If the Nebraska ban on partial birth abortion—which will soon be before the Supreme Court—is upheld, Allen foresees the Senate passing a ban again. "We did once, and it was held up."

Allen also defended the 2nd Amendment. "The 2nd Amendment is part of our Bill of Rights." "Law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves and their property," he stated.

Unfortunate for Allen’s presidential prospect tour, the senator has an opponent for re-election. James Webb, former Secretary of the Navy running as the opposing Democrat. However, with the right effort and the same message on which Allen has delivered for Virginia since being in Congress, he should emerge victorious. "We’ll keep doing what we’re doing. He [Webb] is very formidable, but if we work hard and keep doing what we’re doing, we should be fine."

Allen is clearly the secret presidential frontrunner in the minds of many political types in South Carolina. These political types see two spots for contenders in the Republican primary: Senator John McCain and someone else. A lot of South Carolinians think Allen is that someone else. While McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and Bill Frist all have made trips to South Carolina in the past year, the consultants and strategists have all been hesitant to back anyone. Everyone is waiting for Allen to jump in.

The question remains though: Is America ready for another George wearing cowboy boots?

Eliot Peace is a Townhall.com political reporter and a Project Manager for Starboard Communications, a conservative political marketing and strategy firm in Lexington, South Carolina.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Free Republic; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; allen2008; conservative; elections; georgeallen; governorallen; immigration; president; senatorallen
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To: Sonny M

Governors DO tend to win.

Senators rarely so, not since JFK.


41 posted on 03/29/2006 12:58:03 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Sonny M

I could vote for Sen. Allen with few hesitations.


42 posted on 03/29/2006 12:59:57 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Sonny M

I sure hope so, or else it's either going to be McCainiac or Shrillery.


43 posted on 03/29/2006 1:00:29 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Sonny M

Whether a person is pro life or not isn't important. If the goal is to change the law of the land via the USSC, it doesn't even matter if the proposed Justice is pro life or not.

A person can be pro life or pro abortion and still recognize the Roe decision as a bad one. The personal opinion shouldn't matter.


44 posted on 03/29/2006 1:01:46 PM PST by HitmanLV (Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
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To: Fudd Fan
We haven't had any bad president from Virginia!

*ahem*

Well, there was Woodrow Wilson (he was born here).

45 posted on 03/29/2006 1:15:14 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: Txsleuth

I hear ya... I like Senator Allen (as you KNOW!) but I do understand people who are leery of that. I have no answers about it but to say it's so early.


46 posted on 03/29/2006 1:16:35 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

This is true AHEM!
Wilson is more associated with Princeton, though. Many people don't realize he was born in Virginia. Oh well, there's one in every bunch!


47 posted on 03/29/2006 1:17:28 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: ImpotentRage
In a questionnaire by Human Event Allen did not rule out amnesty for illegals.

FWIW, that Human Events "article" was a hit piece by someone with their panties in twist.

48 posted on 03/29/2006 1:18:13 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: Fudd Fan

Well, New Jersey probably ruined him. ;-)


49 posted on 03/29/2006 1:19:10 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees - Because they're too fun not to mock!)
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To: Txsleuth

I am not an Allenbot yet, but I like him more than the others for now.


50 posted on 03/29/2006 1:40:53 PM PST by defconw (Proud Member of the Bucket Brigade! Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Governors DO tend to win.

Senators rarely so, not since JFK.

Allen was GOV of VA.

51 posted on 03/29/2006 1:42:54 PM PST by P8riot (Happiness, is a crew served weapon.)
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To: Sonny M; West Coast Conservative
Here's a previously posted thread about Sentor George Allen. I bet his father would be rolling over in his grave if he saw an article about his son calling him a "Cowboy".

Cowboy George (Allen) hailed as the Reagan for ’08
Sunday Times ^ | October 16, 2005 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 10/15/2005 8:03:01 PM CDT by West Coast Conservative

52 posted on 03/29/2006 2:06:59 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Sonny M

Exactly, same here, I am very impressed after hearing his comments on Chris Matthews show, I agree let's see how he votes.


53 posted on 03/29/2006 2:13:42 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: MikeA

MikeA you keep spewing that bs over and over in hopes someone will beleive you. He did not get his butt kicked by boxer. He did 'so horribly' that Rush praised him for his performance and played it on his show as an example of him kicking democrat butt. Stop with the lies.

Same goes for that thing with schmuer and reed, he held his own. Your just a mccain humper and have been trying to bash allen with these same lies over and over and over. Get over it and try a different tactic.


54 posted on 03/29/2006 2:20:31 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: defconw

I'm with you there, def.


55 posted on 03/29/2006 2:21:05 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: MikeA

Try looking at his record for governor as an example of cuts and things he did. You can't do much in the Senate. Mccain doesnt have much of a record either in terms of cuts. Yea he goes for pork , but pork is small potatoes compared to medicare and social security spending.


56 posted on 03/29/2006 2:22:09 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: Paleo Conservative

LOL! I bet you his dad would be rolling in his grave to hear his son called a cowboy. I never thought of it that way..


57 posted on 03/29/2006 2:26:14 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

LOL, sure, Rush is so unbiased. Limbaugh can't debate liberals who come on his own show effectively so why would I think he could recognize a good debate himself? Sorry, I watched the Boxer-Allen debate. Did you?? I saw the WHOLE thing, not the 2 lines Limbaugh choose to play me. Why don't you learn to think for yourself instead of letting a guy on the radio tell you what to think??

I have no need to "lie" about Allen's performance. I have nothing against him personally and frankly I would love to support him because I'm probably much more in line with him philosophically than any of the other potential GOP candidates. But I know what I see in Allen and it's not pretty. The guy is an empty suit. I have no need to invent that. I wish he were a marketable, viable candidate for the presidency but he's not. And I'm not going to go into the coma of denial about that just because he has co-opted the mantle of Reagan for himself. You can go ahead and feel safe in your delusions about Allen but I really doubt you have paid much attention to his utterly gruesome performances against Democrats in various TV appearances.

And I'm not a McCain humper as you so vulgarly put it. But I believe he is the only one who can beat Hillary besides Guiliani. But hey, go on being a Dimbulb humper and vote for Howdy Doody Allen! You'll be the first one to bitch about how terrible a Hillary presidency is.


58 posted on 03/29/2006 2:31:28 PM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: SDGOP

Yea he goes for pork , but pork is small potatoes compared to medicare and social security spending.




And Allen proposes to do what to cut Medicare and SS spending?? Sorry, but Allen has not proven himself to be anything other than talk. Where is his leadership on spending? Where is his calling both Republicans and Democrats alike on drunken sailor spending and demanding an end to pork??? Easy. It doesn't exist! Allen is just playing it safe to not ruffle any feathers for the GOP nomination. That tells me he wouldn't take any bold stands or show any out-front leadership as president in cutting spending either.

I may not like all of what McCain stands for, but at least he's not afraid to kick a little ass in our party on pork spending. It's more moxy than I see from Bland Allen.


59 posted on 03/29/2006 2:34:09 PM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: Sonny M
Another big spending, Fiscally liberal, inarticulate, Southern good ol boy...who spends like a drunk.
Farm Bill---Yes

Highway Bill---Yes

Enertgy Bill---Yes

Medicaid Bill---Yes
60 posted on 03/29/2006 2:51:37 PM PST by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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