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Is America ready for another George? (George Allen)
Town Hall ^ | Mar 28, 2006 | Eliot Peace

Posted on 03/29/2006 11:02:37 AM PST by Sonny M

Senator George Allen (R-VA), the third subject in Townhall.com’s series on potential 2008 presidential contenders, visited South Carolina this past Friday. As keynote speaker, Allen drew in the crowds to a fundraiser for Ralph Norman, Republican candidate for South Carolina’s 5th Congressional District. After his speech, Allen sat down with Townhall.com to discuss his thoughts on today’s issues and what the future holds for conservative politics. Included here are excerpts from both the speech and exclusive interview.

COLUMBIA, SC -- George Allen is a serious contender for the Republican nomination for president. A former governor, he wears cowboy boots and can often be found outside with his can of dip. Consequently, some Republicans like Allen, because he seems the most like George W. Bush—a charge Allen can’t quite understand, and frankly, rejects. "I don’t know why people say that," he said. "My two role models are Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan. Most people who know me think I’m most like Ronald Reagan." At the start of his speech, Allen proclaimed himself a "common sense, Jeffersonian conservative" and later quoted Patrick Henry. In fact, his talking points on government were so similar to Reagan’s that it seemed as if he had just read a few of the Gipper’s speeches on the way down to South Carolina.

Allen passionately emphasized his Reagenesque fiscal conservatism and Jeffersonian ideals on limited government. Most of his speech focused on lessening government and lowering the burdens placed on businesses. It is business, he said, that really drives the American economy: "Free people should be able to make free decisions."

He added, "Government doesn’t create jobs […] but government should get the field ready." In other words, government should get out of the way.

One way for government to get out of the way is to lower taxes. "Washington doesn’t have a revenue problem; Washington has a spending problem," he said. "The taxpayers are the owners of the government. That’s who we [Congress] work for."

When asked if the Senate would take up tax reform in the near future, he replied, "Nothing has been proposed as far as legislation goes. Our focus right now needs to be on extending the tax cuts: the capital gains cut, the dividend cut, and the elimination of the death tax, which sunsets in 2010." Tax cuts equate to economic growth. He added, "The tax cuts since 2001 have created 5 million new jobs in the private sector."

Allen went on to argue that Congress should view the taxpayers’ money as its own and spend it frugally, just as members would spend their own paychecks. "We need to look at things and see if it is absolutely necessary to spend the taxpayers’ money," Allen argued.

Allen not only identified the problems with the government, but he offered some innovative solutions. He suggested a federal line-item veto. "I had it as governor of Virginia, and the president should have it as well.”

Allen is also an advocate of a federal balance budget amendment. "We need a balanced budget amendment in Congress." He added, "49 states required balanced budgets, so why doesn’t the federal government?" Ultimately, he has decided, "We need to focus on what’s essential: national defense and the military […] then we need to bind down Congress with the Constitution."

Perhaps his most innovative suggestion is the "Paycheck Penalty." Congress often doesn’t pass the appropriations bills in time and adds millions of dollars worth of pork spending at the last minute. "If Congress does not pass the appropriations bill by October 1, the start of the new fiscal year, [congressmen’s] paychecks will be withheld. It’s their job; they need to get it done."

"Of course," he added laughingly, "that didn’t get a lot of support."

Allen also touched on immigration. He replied, "First and foremost, we need to secure our borders. They have been neglected." He highlighted the need for more personnel, more fences (both real and virtual), and more detention centers. "I don’t think we should reward illegal behavior […] you must punish illegal behavior, or you’ll get more illegal behavior." He also replied, "I’m not for amnesty […] I’m for immigration, but it must be legal immigration."

Of course, Allen couldn’t visit South Carolina and not field tough questions on social issues. When asked about abortion, he stated, "That should be decided by the states." He seemed to think the South Dakota ban is too strict and added, "I personally would add an exemption for rape and incest." If the Nebraska ban on partial birth abortion—which will soon be before the Supreme Court—is upheld, Allen foresees the Senate passing a ban again. "We did once, and it was held up."

Allen also defended the 2nd Amendment. "The 2nd Amendment is part of our Bill of Rights." "Law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves and their property," he stated.

Unfortunate for Allen’s presidential prospect tour, the senator has an opponent for re-election. James Webb, former Secretary of the Navy running as the opposing Democrat. However, with the right effort and the same message on which Allen has delivered for Virginia since being in Congress, he should emerge victorious. "We’ll keep doing what we’re doing. He [Webb] is very formidable, but if we work hard and keep doing what we’re doing, we should be fine."

Allen is clearly the secret presidential frontrunner in the minds of many political types in South Carolina. These political types see two spots for contenders in the Republican primary: Senator John McCain and someone else. A lot of South Carolinians think Allen is that someone else. While McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and Bill Frist all have made trips to South Carolina in the past year, the consultants and strategists have all been hesitant to back anyone. Everyone is waiting for Allen to jump in.

The question remains though: Is America ready for another George wearing cowboy boots?

Eliot Peace is a Townhall.com political reporter and a Project Manager for Starboard Communications, a conservative political marketing and strategy firm in Lexington, South Carolina.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Free Republic; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; allen2008; conservative; elections; georgeallen; governorallen; immigration; president; senatorallen
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To: Sonny M
"We need to focus on what’s essential: national defense and the military […] then we need to bind down Congress with the Constitution."

Ya gotta like that...and tax cuts too!

21 posted on 03/29/2006 11:27:08 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: MikeA

That's our biggest problem right now. Almost all of them all part of the wallpaper. The ones that aren't are rarely heard from.
Take Tancredo for instance. Yes, he is heard from quite a bit, if you are looking in the right places. But watch what happens to him when he tries to go through the MSM. They'll make him out to be a far-rightwing nutcase.


22 posted on 03/29/2006 11:27:36 AM PST by mark3681
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To: mark3681

The Massachusetts Republican Assembly will be having George Allen and Tom Tancredo as speakers soon. Yeah, THAT'S the ticket!


23 posted on 03/29/2006 11:31:24 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: mark3681

At least this George sounds like he would know how to cut spending.

They already are. Did you hear the reaction to his appearance on that assinine Stephanopolis show? (Further proof of how unbiased the news media is, they put a former Clinton campaign chief on as host of a political chat show. Amazing.) Tancredo came off as very reasonable and sincere yet he was demonized as a hate-filled nut.

Geez, I wonder if I could make an argument that if I choose to steal that if you try to stop me you're lacking compassion and are just a "far right wing kook." That's what happens to Tancredo every time he argues that illegal immigration is illegal and should be treated as such.


24 posted on 03/29/2006 11:31:44 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: MikeA
What spending cuts has he proposed in the Senate? I'm sure not aware that he's presented any or fought to reduce spending and pork in any way.

There was a coule of bills where he took stands backing senator Coburn, so he had some credentials, there was that major bill Coburn put together that would cut pork, only 13 senators went along with it (it died).

He also proposed a line item veto.

That said, he does need more work, Dick Wadham will take care of that.

25 posted on 03/29/2006 11:33:17 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: winner3000

"George Bush never even sounded like Ronald Reagan, so we cannot blame him for not acting like a fiscal conservative (his dad never did either)."


When was Reagan a fiscal conservative? He had huge deficits too. Use, I know, Democrats controlled congress. But Reagan controlled the veto pen. And I fault both Reagan and Bush 43 for not using it.

Allen is an unelectable dunce. The guy got creamed by Barbara Bozo Boxer, Schumer, Rep. Harman and Sen. Jack Reed in various chat show appearances. Allen just looked like a deer in the headlights and had no response to any of their no-brainer lies which anyone with even a 50 IQ could have refuted.


26 posted on 03/29/2006 11:34:53 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: Sonny M

Coburn put together that would cut pork, only 13 senators went along with it (it died).


I thought I heard Allen voted against that.


27 posted on 03/29/2006 11:36:11 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: Fudd Fan
Run for President Game. :)
28 posted on 03/29/2006 11:40:00 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Miss Marple

I'm not too worried at this early date, and he's got to be re-elected this year to the senate anyway. If he gets more definite on different issues in another year or so, I'll be even more gung-ho for him; if not, then not.


29 posted on 03/29/2006 11:42:10 AM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: MikeA
I thought I heard Allen voted against that.

He voted for it.

What ticked me off, was that other senators called his voting for it a political stunt (they were defending earmarks) and Ted Stevens indirectly threatened him along with the Cantwell.

30 posted on 03/29/2006 11:42:29 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: MikeA

Is there anyone you DO like? I'm not being snide, I'm really interested to know.


31 posted on 03/29/2006 11:43:30 AM PST by Fudd Fan (Truth will set us all free. Libs will get us all killed.)
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To: Fudd Fan

I think weve been Georged enough. How bout Newt?


32 posted on 03/29/2006 11:45:30 AM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: samadams2000
Newt is unelectable, for several reasons:

1.He has been demonized by the press.

2. He was a hypocrite on social issues, given his personal life.

3. He can, on occasion, be a whiner.

4. The American public is not ready for a President Newt.

33 posted on 03/29/2006 11:52:09 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Sonny M
George Allen is definitely my favorite.

I would not vote for Hagel or McCain.

34 posted on 03/29/2006 11:53:04 AM PST by Montfort (Check out the 200+ page free preview of The Figurehead by Thomas Larus at lulu.com/larus)
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To: jackbenimble

"Good idea! In the past he has supported shamnesty. He is singing a new tune in this speech and I don't think we have much reason to trust him."

I agree with you. In a questionnaire by Human Event Allen did not rule out amnesty for illegals. I for one don't trust him - of course, it has reached a point where I could count on one hand the people in Washington I DO trust.


35 posted on 03/29/2006 11:58:13 AM PST by ImpotentRage
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To: Montfort

"George Allen is definitely my favorite.

I would not vote for Hagel or McCain."

I agree. Allen is the best viable candidate. Rudi is too socially liberal. Hagel is too liberal on foreign policy. McCain might as well be a Democrat.


36 posted on 03/29/2006 12:20:18 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Stellar Dendrite

There's also Mike Huckabee...although he doesn't show signs of planning a run in 2008.


37 posted on 03/29/2006 12:41:37 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Fudd Fan; defconw

I love George...but it makes me sad when he "seemingly" ran from the comparison to our present "President George"..

Right after pooh-poohing that notion, he went on to say he is in favor of all kinds of tax cuts, and other things that BUSH is responsible for...

BTW..regarding his stance on immigratation---I will have to wait and see what he actually says for the record in Senate debates...

I REALLY, REALLY want to back him...but, not quite yet, (although he is the only one we KNOW is running that I am even close to liking enough to vote for).


38 posted on 03/29/2006 12:48:00 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: massgopguy

Would love to see that!


39 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:55 PM PST by mark3681
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To: MikeA

DITTO


40 posted on 03/29/2006 12:55:57 PM PST by mark3681
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