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Doomsday for Islam?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/28/06 | Robert Pfriender

Posted on 03/28/2006 2:38:09 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

I'm begining to wonder what the U.S. government would do to retaliate if a nuclear device were to go off somewhere in the U.S. Afterall this is the same government that will allow millions of criminal aliens to invade our country and drain our country of billions of dollars and what do they get? they get an amnesty from our cowardly Senators in Washington.

That does not inspire confidence in me very much.


61 posted on 03/28/2006 3:52:18 PM PST by puppypusher
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To: BlueStateDepression

If that's the exception, then that proves my point. From what I can gather, we were shot at from within the Abdul-Aziz mosque, so we fought to the death for six hours, eventually bombed a wall of the "mosque complex", then groveled and/or harrumphed at the accusation when we were blamed for damage to the mosque proper. Only the commie and Arab websites claimed that we bombed the mosque itself.


62 posted on 03/28/2006 4:00:14 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

well you speak of what I said in the singular and indeed I spoke of it in the plural. Hundreds of mosques in fallujah were part of the battle that took place there. Seriously, hundreds.


63 posted on 03/28/2006 4:02:38 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: paul51; All
That was the sentence that stuck out most in my mind, too. If bin Laden smuggles a nuke into the US, we'll likely take down the islamic Middle East, N. Korea, China and Russia, all in one fell swoop.

BTW, everybody, great responses, all! I've thorougly enjoyed everything everone has said in this thread. Even if I haven't fully agreed with everyone, it's been very interesting, with plenty of food for thought. I hope we get another few hundred responses if the quality of responses continues like this!

64 posted on 03/28/2006 4:02:49 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Ben Mugged
The question for all American's is not breathing dust, but tasting the literal blood. The dust is a "suit and tie" resolve to the problem. Can the nation have the resolve to bath in the blood, for the democracy of the republic? Pushing a button is easy for all of us.

The real question is, will we sacrifice our children for this? I have pondered this question many times as I have a son that is 26 years old. It is easy to say that I would lay my life for my country, but my son? Is the freedom that we enjoy worth that pre-meditated thought? And how many of us think about this? It's easy to push the button, but would I come to the conclusion that my child needs to lay his/her life down for the future of this country in this time.

Sobbering as it might seem, I answer yes. These are the times that we live in today.
65 posted on 03/28/2006 4:05:45 PM PST by mmanager ("Then I cried out to God, and he heard me!")
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To: LibWhacker
Let's be reminded that there is no provision in any of the Pentagon's war plans or myriad assortment of contingency plans for a national surrender.

Let us also remember that it won't be the Pentagon's call. Only the National Command Authority, can authorize an attack. This is the President and Secretary of Defense, or their successors. The order of Presidential succession (but only to "acting" President, if the successor is not the then sitting Vice President) is established by law, US Code, Title 3 Sec. 19 while the sucession to the Office of Secretary of Defense is established by Executive Order, recently updated by President Bush in December of 2005.

66 posted on 03/28/2006 4:19:14 PM PST by El Gato
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To: BlueStateDepression

Well you got me there old sport, I never thought it was hundreds or even tens, just that one. It's the only one that comes up in the first dozen pages of googling fallujah +mosque +attack anyway.


67 posted on 03/28/2006 4:21:10 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Not to be spiteful, but at least now you know why I feel about google the way I do. ;)


68 posted on 03/28/2006 4:24:24 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: mmanager
I have pondered this question many times as I have a son that is 26 years old. It is easy to say that I would lay my life for my country, but my son?

I believe that would be your son's call. The question is whether you would support his decision if it was not the decision you would want him to make.

69 posted on 03/28/2006 4:27:57 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
Understand, but as a father would you look your child in the eyes and say this is for the future of America?

This is where the rubber meets the road. Can't go and say "it's his call". As a parent it is a fair assessment to the question. He/She has to taste the blood, we get to push the button.
70 posted on 03/28/2006 4:34:03 PM PST by mmanager ("Then I cried out to God, and he heard me!")
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To: American Vet Repairman
For all intensive purpose they are just for show

I think you are mistaken on that. The examples you sighted don't come close to the level of a WMD attack. In the event of that, I think our government response will tend more toward what the article suggests. I wouldn't expect to much time or thought would be given when the result of a miscalculation could be our destruction. I imagine every scenario on the boards will more likely result in everyone else's destruction. Of course that will require us to deal with the aftermath but I suppose that is better than not being around to deal.

71 posted on 03/28/2006 4:34:48 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Strategerist
If a major U.S. city were hit by a nuclear detonation, it would undoubtably be traced back to a terrorist who is a member of Saudi's Wahhabi sect of Islam.

If that happened, all bets would be off, and you can darn well bet that in the bowels of the Pentagon, Mecca is in fact a legitimate target.

Muslims believe that their Moon rock at Mecca is protected by Allah. One tactical nuke would dispel that myth.
72 posted on 03/28/2006 4:35:29 PM PST by FBD (surf's up!)
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To: LibWhacker

bump


73 posted on 03/28/2006 4:35:45 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: airborne

I agree, Nukes are too messy, we can carpet bomb them, its more fun too


74 posted on 03/28/2006 4:36:33 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: Jim Noble
"there is no possibility that either George Bush or Hillary Clinton would do such a thing - not in a million years."

Bush will. And he won't take a poll either before or after.

75 posted on 03/28/2006 4:38:30 PM PST by BobS
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To: LibWhacker

what a waste of an article


76 posted on 03/28/2006 4:41:34 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: isrul

""I don't think Bush would authorize any nuclear retaliation against what he believes to be the religion of peace.""


Bush hasnt said that since 2001


77 posted on 03/28/2006 4:42:14 PM PST by georgia2006
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To: Strategerist
What's that old saying: You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
78 posted on 03/28/2006 4:43:00 PM PST by fish hawk (TU)
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To: Strategerist; GOPJ; Publius6961; LibWhacker


"Why hasn't Osama bin Laden's terror network executed an attack on U.S. soil since 9-11?"

Simple, says Dr. Jack Wheeler, creator of an acclaimed intelligence website dubbed "the oasis for rational conservatives"
: http://www.tothepointnews.com/welcome.php?partner=WND

The U.S. has threatened to nuke the Muslim holy city of Mecca should the terror leader strike America again.

On his website, 'To the Point', Wheeler explains how the Bush administration has identified the potential of wiping Mecca off the map as bin Laden's ultimate point of vulnerability – the Damoclean Sword hanging over his head.


"Israel … recognizes that the Aswan Dam is Egypt's Damoclean Sword," writes Wheeler. "There is no possibility whatever of Egypt's winning a war with Israel, for if Aswan is blown, all of inhabited Egypt is under 20 feet of water. Once the Israelis made this clear to the Egyptians, the possibility of any future Egyptian attack on Israel like that of 1948, 1967, and 1972 is gone."

Wheeler says talk of bin Laden's Damoclean Sword has infiltrated the Beltway.

Writes Wheeler in his members-only column: "There has been a rumor floating in the Washington ether for some time now that George Bush has figured out what Sword of Damocles is suspended over Osama bin Laden's head. It's whispered among Capitol Hill staffers on the intel and armed services committees; White House NSC (National Security Council) members clam up tight if you begin to hint at it; and State Department neo-cons love to give their liberal counterparts cardiac arrhythmia by elliptically conversing about it in their presence.

"The whispers and hints and ellipses are getting louder now because the rumor explains the inexplicable: Why hasn't there been a repeat of 9-11? How can it be that after this unimaginable tragedy and Osama's constant threats of another, we have gone over three years without a single terrorist attack on American soil?"

Available only to subscribers of To the Point, Wheeler ends his column by explaining the effectiveness of the Mecca threat.

"Completely obliterating the terrorists' holiest of holies, rendering what is for them the world's most sacred spot a radioactive hole in the ground is retribution of biblical proportions – and those are the only proportions that will do the job.

"Osama would have laughed off such a threat, given his view that Americans are wussies who cut and run after a few losses, such as Lebanon in 1983 and Somalia in 1993. Part of Bush's rationale for invading Afghanistan and Iraq – obviously never expressed publicly – was to convince Osama that his threat to nuke Mecca was real. Osama hates America just as much as ever, but he is laughing no more."

Wheeler says bin Laden is "playing poker with a Texas cowboy holding the nuclear aces," so there's nothing al-Qaida could do that could come remotely close to risking obliterating Mecca."


79 posted on 03/28/2006 4:46:38 PM PST by FBD (surf's up!)
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To: LibWhacker

We really haven't played cowboys and Muslims yet.


80 posted on 03/28/2006 4:48:43 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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