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Doomsday for Islam?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/28/06 | Robert Pfriender

Posted on 03/28/2006 2:38:09 PM PST by LibWhacker

The focus on the ports fiasco obviously would pale in comparison to a terror nuke actually detonating in one of our ports. But what about the flipside of that terrible event? What would happen to Islam as a result of a massive nuclear retaliatory counterstrike against Islamic targets?

Perhaps this week's most ominous headline was "Islamic websites carry al-Qaida's Last Warning." The story in WorldNetDaily detailed how Osama bin Laden's terror group plans to bring destruction upon the United States and force it into surrender. Apparently this is more of the same threat that has been circulating for some time that al-Qaida plans to detonate seven nuclear warheads it claims to have acquired from Pakistan and the former Soviet Union in the United States. There have also been accompanying threats that al-Qaida planned to follow up the nuclear attacks with crop-dusting planes that would spread smallpox on American cities.

Despite grandiose plans for such an attack on the United States, bin Laden has again failed to understand the nature of the American spirit and the likely vengeance such an attack would unleash from American military strategic nuclear forces. Since the United States entered the era of nuclear weapons technology many decades ago, it has always had detailed contingency plans on how the country would respond in a nuclear crisis.

Perhaps best known among those contingency plans is the one drawn up during the Cold War with the Soviets commonly described as "MAD," or Mutual Assured Destruction. Simply, MAD is the doctrine whereby the United States sought to dissuade its adversaries from ever even considering a nuclear attack against our country by assuring that such an attempt would be met with such a hyper-violent nuclear response that would undoubtedly result in the annihilation of not just the United States, but also the enemy that initiated the attack.

For some odd reason, bin Laden and his fanatical associates seem to believe that the United States would back down in the face of a nuclear terror attack. It would seem that their psychotic thought processes have blinded their judgment in a profound and ultimately self-destructive way. Their warped perception leads them to believe that such an attack could not be traced back to their hands and hence the United States would be left with no retaliation targets. They obviously fail to see the difference between tactical and strategic planning and this error may ultimately lead Islam to disaster.

Enter what history may someday describe as the Bush doctrine of "Terror-MAD," the likely response to a terror nuke attack on our country. Although no one in government will confirm such a doctrine even exists, simple common sense and past comments by government officials to the press would indicate that, in fact, it does exist. And herein is Mr. bin Laden's very fatal flaw.

A terror nuke attack upon the United States would undoubtedly unleash a response by American strategic nuclear forces so violent and so encompassing that the very future of Islamic society around the world would likely be permanently wiped from the face of the planet.

Bear in mind the reality of such an attack against the United States. Not only would the United States not be chastised by the international community for such a massive counterstrike, but no one in the American government would likely care about what others think under such circumstances. While we're busy throwing all those retaliatory nukes around, who is going to standup and object? Certainly, it won't be Russia to complain since they have their own serious radical Islam problem to deal with in former republics on its borders.

Let's be reminded that there is no provision in any of the Pentagon's war plans or myriad assortment of contingency plans for a national surrender. It would just never happen under any circumstance. Actually, the Pentagon's logic is that for each escalation of attack against us our response would be a vastly increased level of violence against our adversary. And you can be sure – when push comes to shove – whatever weapon is in the inventory will be used ... nothing will be held back.

Such a contingency plan is likely contained in the largely still-classified document called the Nuclear Posture Review, the comprehensive war plan for the Pentagon. Unlike bin Laden's shortsighted tactical plans, the Pentagon has an extremely detailed strategic plan for dealing with essentially any circumstance, threat or contingency that may conceivably face our nation.

The likely target list for retaliation for a nuclear terror attack against the United States includes Iran, Syria, and Libya as the primary targets. We can supplement those targets with countries such as Saudi Arabia – where most of the 9-11 terrorists came from (and that are most likely targeted with the "neutron bomb" designed with such a scenario in mind that kills with enhanced radiation levels but essentially leaves facilities and oil infrastructure intact – except for holy sites such as Mecca, Medina, Hebron, Qom and others, which planners might want to completely annihilate). There are likely other "Islamic" countries also on the potential target list and even ones we generally consider as being friendly to the U.S. such as Pakistan, especially if radicals gained control of its nuclear weapons.

You may recall that Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., suggested exactly that awhile back, and while his statement met with denials from the State Department, the Department of Defense and the White House were silent on the Tancredo comment. A statement previously released from the Pentagon says, "The Department of Defense continues to plan for a broad range of contingencies and unforeseen threats to the United States and its allies. We do so in order to deter such attacks in the first place ... This administration is fashioning a more diverse set of options for deterring the threat of weapons of mass destruction," the Pentagon statement also said.

While the Pentagon was busy "cleaning house" our strategic nuclear force would also likely target North Korea just to be certain we don't face any additional threats while we are in a recovery mode from the terror attack. Depending on the circumstances at the time of the attack against us, the Pentagon might even include China on the potential target list since China's own military doctrine (especially "Unrestricted Warfare") could be interpreted as using any advantage such as an already weakened United States to further its own military goals. Simply, our military planners would likely destroy every conceivable real or imagined threat to our country after we are attacked with a nuke.

Americans as a whole seem to have tremendous patience, much more so than say Islamic countries. The American flag is burned on a daily basis in many countries during what seem like endless protests against our country and it hardly elicits any response at all here. On the other hand, a few cartoons – even ones showing Muhammad in a favorable way – sends masses of violent protestors into the streets in Islamic countries. However, we do have limits to our patience. If we got nuked, there would undoubtedly be a tremendous outcry for massive retaliation. After all, the country quickly united on Sept. 12, 2001, and widely supported President Bush's initiative to attack Afghanistan.

According to the portions of the Nuclear Posture Review that are public, nuclear weapons can be used "in retaliation for the use of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons," or "in the event of surprising military developments." It also recognizes the need for nuclear retaliation in cases of "immediate, potential or unexpected" contingencies against potential adversaries that have "long-standing hostility towards the United States and its security partners" including countries that "sponsor or harbor terrorists, and have active WMD [weapons of mass destruction] and missile programs."

Former U.S. Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton (now U.S. ambassador to the United Nations) said a while back:

"We would do whatever is necessary to defend America's innocent civilian population ... The idea that fine theories of deterrence work against everybody ... has just been disproven by Sept. 11."

National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has said that the Bush administration wants to "send a very strong signal to anyone who might try to use weapons of mass destruction against the United States." Further, "The only way to deter such a use is to be clear it would be met with a devastating response," she said. A State Department spokesman has previously stated "if a weapon of mass destruction is used against the United States or its allies, we will not rule out any specific type of response."

Considering the huge number of nuclear weapons in the United State's inventory, there would be no need to pick and choose targets for economy purposes. While bin Laden's claim that he has a few nukes (which may or may not be still operational) may turn out to be true, there is the utmost certainty that the United States has a huge number (somewhere in the thousands) of extremely well-maintained and very reliable nuclear warheads in all shapes and sizes for every possible purpose.

A nuclear attack on America by al-Qaida would – by many informed accounts – lead to a renewed crusade to destroy Islam throughout the world. Bin Laden's grandiose plan to destroy modern civilization and restore some absurd form of radical Islamic rule throughout the entire world will undoubtedly have exactly the opposite effect. Already we see a tremendous backlash against most things Islamic, the recent port fiasco is a perfect case in point. Imagine the reaction after a nuke attack.

Absent an international movement by those in the moderate Islamic community – who can and should be able to locate and bring Mr. bin Laden and his despicable cohorts to justice – he just might one day make good on his threat to nuke America.

In his fanatical zeal to convert the entire world to radical Islam, there will be two groups of victims resulting from bin Laden's insanity – innocent people just wanting to live their normal lives here in our country, and Islam itself with its followers throughout the world. Such a result would hardy be considered a noble pursuit and or end-result by people who claim to be the servants of their God.

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Robert Pfriender is the founder and president of Allied International Development, Ltd., a privately held real estate development and construction management firm located on Long Island, N.Y., that tried to persuade the U.S. government to allow a private consortium to build offshore ports in which all incoming cargo containers could be inspected, preventing all weapons of mass destruction from ever reaching American shores.


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To: Canard
including important strategic allies

We would no longer need any strategic allies if we obliterated any strategic enemies.

21 posted on 03/28/2006 3:02:39 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: LibWhacker

Yeah right! We don't have a govt with the balls to even nail Saudi Arabia, since they are the ones that promote Wahabbi religion and had the majority of the highjackers! Sorry but after the WTC, I would have incinerated Medina and blown up the Dome on the Rock (do the Israeli's a favor) then send the rest of the Muslim world the message that Mecca is next if so much as a fire cracker went off.


22 posted on 03/28/2006 3:03:08 PM PST by Bommer
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To: montag813
Painfully bad writing and grammar. Particularly the last clause.

Well, it's what you'd expect from a juvenile masturbatory fantasy from WingNutDaily.

Muslims aren't neatly packed into homogenous areas around the world either within countries, or adjacent countries.

You can't "nuke all the Muslims" by tossing nukes willy-nilly around the world without killing millions of Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists either through direct blast effects or downwind fallout, undoubtedly more non-Muslims than the initial theorized terror attack on the US did.

23 posted on 03/28/2006 3:03:27 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: LibWhacker
A terror nuke attack upon the United States would undoubtedly unleash a response by American strategic nuclear forces so violent and so encompassing that the very future of Islamic society around the world would likely be permanently wiped from the face of the planet.

The reason the West is perceived as weak is the West is so powerful we must constantly act restrained.

A two year old can kick a six foot 4 inch trained policeman - and the policeman will smile and tell the child to stop. But, if the child gets a knife, the game will be up in seconds. Same with Radical Muslims.

To hear the stories of radical Muslims having 7 or 8 nukes - and acting so big about it, is silly. What a joke. We have thousands of nukes. And many other weapons developed since our grandparents invented nukes. If radical Muslims want to "pull the knife", we'll kill them all. Easily. Quickly. It'll be over in 45 minutes. All their holy sites, all their oil fields, all their dreams. Gone. And we'll come back. They never will. Arabs who love their life and lifestyle should turn Osama and goons in -- cause we won't put up with this crap forever...

24 posted on 03/28/2006 3:04:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Peace happens when evil is vanquished -- Cal Thomas)
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To: paul51

I was referring to strategic allies in securing the supply of necessary resources, not just in a military sense.


25 posted on 03/28/2006 3:05:10 PM PST by Canard
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To: Redleg Duke

A nuclear attack on a city would result in a nuclear strike somewhere against "responsible parties." Several nuclear attacks against US cities would probably result in a massive nuclear strike. One-regardless of who is in office, after that kind of devastation, any President who did not strike and strike in a devastating way would be forced out of office almost immediately.

The American people after such a strike would result in an immediate declaration of war against islam. There was lit tle patience towards Islam after 9-11. How much more anger would fire up immediately after such an attack. I think you could say much of Islam would cease to exist. By the way, it's not just the immediate destructive areas of the blast, several nuclear strikes by the US against middle east targets would spread radioactivity throughout much of the region.


26 posted on 03/28/2006 3:07:26 PM PST by jdluntjr
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To: LibWhacker
Even after an al-Qaeda nuclear attack, we would not have the political will to retaliate... no identifiable guilty target, a generation or three of fear-mongering about the horrors of nuclear war, and that nasty little 50-50 political divide (unless it's the Dems somehow becoming the hawks).

Our hundreds of billions were spent on the MAD philosophy. For actual offensive or defensive use in the War on Terror/Islam/Extremists, they're virtually useless.

27 posted on 03/28/2006 3:07:29 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: LibWhacker
I don't think Bush would authorize any nuclear retaliation against what he believes to be the religion of peace. We would probably just hear more of the same. Stay the course. Hunt 'em down. smoke 'em out ad bring 'em to justice. Might also hear that a nuke strike on us just proves that they are desperate and we are winning. I don't think Bush has the stomach for it. No matter what happens. Perhaps Israel will do what it needs to survive ultimately. But I'm not even sure of that anymore.
28 posted on 03/28/2006 3:08:17 PM PST by isrul
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To: LibWhacker
The likely target list for retaliation for a nuclear terror attack against the United States includes Iran, Syria, and Libya as the primary targets. We can supplement those targets with countries such as Saudi Arabia – where most of the 9-11 terrorists came from (and that are most likely targeted with the "neutron bomb" designed with such a scenario in mind that kills with enhanced radiation levels but essentially leaves facilities and oil infrastructure intact – except for holy sites such as Mecca, Medina, Hebron, Qom and others, which planners might want to completely annihilate). There are likely other "Islamic" countries also on the potential target list and even ones we generally consider as being friendly to the U.S. such as Pakistan, especially if radicals gained control of its nuclear weapons.

This paragragraph is so satisfying on many levels.
The muslims are blissfully misinterpreting our reluctance to act as fear of world opinion. They will find out, eventually, that they were wrong.
Notice I said "eventually" since I am convinced it is not "if" but "when".

The only difference between this list and my 5-year-old one is that I include many more large and belligerent muslim countries, including Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Malaysia and, of course, Afghanistan and Iraq.

And not one cent for post-destruction relief or reconstruction... God bless the Umma. The late dar al-Islam... They never had a clue, although they had decades to figure it out.

29 posted on 03/28/2006 3:08:35 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: LibWhacker
For some odd reason, bin Laden and his fanatical associates seem to believe that the United States would back down in the face of a nuclear terror attack.

We could wipe out most of the muslims in the Middle East with conventional weapons that would leave their land (and oil fields) free of radioactivity and ready for occupation.

We will never back down to 7th century cave dwellers!

30 posted on 03/28/2006 3:12:47 PM PST by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Strategerist
You can't "nuke all the Muslims" by tossing nukes willy-nilly around the world without killing millions of Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists either through direct blast effects or downwind fallout, undoubtedly more non-Muslims than the initial theorized terror attack on the US did.

Just throw that into your fantasy bag with Global warming or cooling (your choice) and deal with it...

If multi-nukes go off in the US, I feel sorry for you.

31 posted on 03/28/2006 3:12:57 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: jjm2111

"Daddy, what are Muslims?"

Exactly!


32 posted on 03/28/2006 3:13:17 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: LibWhacker

The Senate would vote them amnesty.


33 posted on 03/28/2006 3:13:46 PM PST by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: jdluntjr

I think if there's a nuclear attack on the USA, there's the strong possibility of a military coup that would destroy islam completely if the president didn't order it.


34 posted on 03/28/2006 3:14:10 PM PST by ConTex
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To: LibWhacker
"..Apparently this is more of the same threat that has been circulating for some time that al-Qaida plans to detonate seven nuclear warheads it claims to have acquired from Pakistan and the former Soviet Union in the United States. There have also been accompanying threats that al-Qaida planned to follow up the nuclear attacks with crop-dusting planes that would spread smallpox on American cities..."

Total tinfoil bullshit! What gets me about WND is that they are making another story about another BS story...and on and on.

35 posted on 03/28/2006 3:14:13 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Canard
I was referring to strategic allies in securing the supply of necessary resources, not just in a military sense

The will to survive creates some strategic partners. The article also refers to weapons designed to destroy personnel and not facilities. Presumably, our strategic allies know of their existence.

36 posted on 03/28/2006 3:15:28 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: LibWhacker
A terror nuke attack upon the United States would undoubtedly unleash a response by American strategic nuclear forces so violent and so encompassing that the very future of Islamic society around the world would likely be permanently wiped from the face of the planet.

there is no possibility that either George Bush or Hillary Clinton would do such a thing - not in a million years.

37 posted on 03/28/2006 3:16:11 PM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Teacher317
Our hundreds of billions were spent on the MAD philosophy. For actual offensive or defensive use in the War on Terror/Islam/Extremists, they're virtually useless.

That's almost word for word what Osama argues... and is counting on. He is wrong. Dead wrong.

38 posted on 03/28/2006 3:16:18 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: airborne
ready for occupation.

You and what army?

39 posted on 03/28/2006 3:18:18 PM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Bommer
Yeah right! We don't have a govt with the balls to even nail Saudi Arabia, since they are the ones that promote Wahabbi religion and had the majority of the highjackers! Sorry but after the WTC, I would have incinerated Medina and blown up the Dome on the Rock (do the Israeli's a favor) then send the rest of the Muslim world the message that Mecca is next if so much as a fire cracker went off.

Interesting you say that. It's exactly what I told my students on 9/11. I told them who had done it and what we had to do. I told them that, while precipitous, it was either that, or play patty-cake and PR with them for the next ad infinitum. Sorry, but we chose the latter because the other was "unthinkable". I think it's not only thinkable, it's advisable. And the ragtime cowboys would have crawled back into their own century.

40 posted on 03/28/2006 3:18:52 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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