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But of course you are. You used it to describe anyone who violates border laws. Now, is the turtle smuggler an invader?

You must be confusing me with someone else, since FreeRepublic provides a very easy method of checking prior posts, I know I haven't used the word. But fine, they're invaders.

in·vade Pronunciation Key (n-vd)
v. in·vad·ed, in·vad·ing, in·vades
v. tr.

1. To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage.
2. To encroach or intrude on; violate: “The principal of the trusts could not be invaded without trustee approval” (Barbara Goldsmith).
3. To overrun as if by invading; infest: “About 1917 the shipworm invaded the harbor of San Francisco” (Rachel Carson).
4. To enter and permeate, especially harmfully.

So, yes, they're invaders.

Let's step back to your strawman argument that someone broke into my company and performed work for a cheaper cost. Where is this cheaper cost? My lettuce isn't cheaper because of illegal labor - my lettuce typically comes from Brazil. An illegal laborer doesn't change the price at all, except perhaps cheaper for the producer.

But where's the reduced cost? My sales taxes are the highest they've ever been, I pay more in property taxes as a percentage of my home value than ever before, I pay more in utility taxes than ever before. My income taxes are a higher percentage of my income. And overall, I pay more taxes for everything I purchase. Where did the gain go?

And what does this nation gain from the five billion in cash sent out of the country? That's not a trade deficit, that's flight of assets. Nothing comes in return; we get nothing out of it. Not even additional trash, aside from a discarded receipt.

My daughter won't be able to get any standard 'starting' job that one would normally expect a high school student to occupy - those positions are either occupied by illegals or their descendent's. Her costs for going to college are higher than ever; what happened to this big economic gain? Shouldn't these costs now be lower? Visiting a hospital without insurance is a bankrupting proposition (or would be, were it not for making such bankruptcies illegal).. Where's this economic benefit of these twelve million visitors? Shouldn't all costs be lowered?

Yes you have property rights, just as you have the right to drive a car without someone endangering your life by breaking traffic laws. But if one does violate those rights that makes him a criminal and not an invader.

If I drive my car at speed across the border with Mexico, I will be shot. Is it because I'm endangering them with my car, or failing to yield to their sovereign rights in inspecting cars as they cross the border? If I decide tomorrow to go move down to Mexico City and seek employment, what will happen to me? Right, I'll be arrested and placed in jail for violating their employment and immigration laws. But dare someone suggest that such equal treatment be offered to their citizens here, well, that just is something coming from a racist.

So tell us, oh wise person, what are we getting from this? What benefit comes from all of these invaders? Explain why I should desire to make their lives any more comfortable and not seek to have employers punished, and the illegals themselves deported from my country?

You must be confusing me with someone else, since FreeRepublic provides a very easy method of checking prior posts, I know I haven't used the word.

You said violation of sovereignty, same thing. But fair enough, I did confuse you with someone else.

But fine, they're invaders.

So this includes the turtle smuggler? And which of the four options are you claiming applies.

Now as to reduced costs, just because you and your family aren't getting the benefits, doesn't mean they aren't there for the country. Are you disputing that immigrants do the same labor at severely reduced price?

As for taxes we do have a war on our hands. And we do have a problem with the growing amound of Social Security and Medicare costs due to a larger proportion of the population being retired. This problem will get far worse in the future, which brings us to the need to bring in more younger workers.

And what does this nation gain from the five billion in cash sent out of the country?

It gains nothing, but allowing the workers to become citizens and bring in their families will solve that problem...*time for me to put on an extra pair of flame retarding underwear*

If I drive my car at speed across the border with Mexico...

Mexico has different laws to suit different problems. They have a surplus of labor we have a deficit, so there's more pressure for keeping foreigners out.

As for the gain, unlike Europe and Japan we get demographics which aren't diproportionately filled with greedy aging geezers; who's primary concern when voting is with getting the biggest check from the government. If you think your taxes are bad due to healthcare for illegals, wait until that bomb goes off.