So Cal Walkout Pics (Dubya's Future GOP)

Los Angeles Newspaper Group newspapers ^ | 3-28-06 | Myself

[StoneColdGOP]

Joseph Sanchez, Long Beach resident brought out his son, Joseph Sanchez Jr., 4, to protest the HR3447 bill. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)

A protester holds up a sign that reads "Revolution is the solution" in spanish. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)

School officials keep an eye on marching students as hundreds showed up to Montebello High School and urged those students to leave the school and protest against proposition HR 4437 on March 27, 2006, at the Montebello school. The Mexican flag was raised at the school by the protesting students, shown in the background. Students walked from El Rancho High School in Pico Rivera to Pioneer High School in Whittier, then on to Whittier High School, to Montebello High School and then to downtown Los Angeles. (Raul Roa/Staff photo)

Students protesting wave the Mexican flag as the crowd gathers at Cesar Chavez Park in Long Beach. (Tracey Roman / for the Press-Telegram)

Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools walked out of classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upsidedown at Montebello High. (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)

Students from Marshall High School, Blair High, and Pasadena High School and Muir High School walked to the Pasadena Unified School District Headquarters in protest to denounce a federal legislative proposal that would criminalize illegal immigration and require building a 700-mile wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. (Walt Mancini/Staff photo)

Students holding the flag of Mexico, after the flag of Mexico was put on the flagpole, replacing the American flag and California Republic flag. Pasadena police chief Bernard Melekian with Pasadena police officer Mike Korpal place the flag of California Republic and the American flag to the flagpole at its proper height at Pasadena Unified School District headquarters. (Walt Mancini/Staff photo)

Area high school students raise the Mexican flag at the Montebello High School flag pole as they marched to the school to urge those students to also walk and protest against proposition HR 4437 on March 27, 2006, at the Montebello school. Students walked from El Rancho High School in Pico Rivera to Pioneer High School in Whittier, then on to Whittier High School, to Montebello High School and then to downtown Los Angeles. (Raul Roa/Staff photo)

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[bobwilgo]

Just imagine if every one of them picked up one rock and threw it. Or flicked a bic on a building.


It would have been a good thing if it would have happened then Narby.Better now than later,after they get their Amnesty grant and we're stuck with 'em.It would have at least brought all this to a head so we could really see what the future holds w/amnesty.If amnesty is passed now....we'll for sure have trouble out of Mexican generations to come..you can take it to the bank!

Narby..you talk like you're scared to death.You worry me.Calm down now,when they revolt someone will protect you.

[Bull Market]

>Not having the proper papers and breaking civil statutes makes you an 'invader' now? Interesting defenition...<

When aided by the Mexican military, there is something to that.

[Praxeus]

That is why I put the quotes aound "hispanic". I hate even using the term. The word "hispanic" tends to make people think of one culture.. or even one ethnicity.

Cubans have as much in common with mexicans as a go-cart does with a bus. The only commonality most Hispanic groups have with each other is the Spanish language. And they don't even speak that the same.

The "hispanics" that are in my sphere are mostly of Mexican descent, or current illegal aliens from mexico. In the areas of the US in peril, this is mostly the case. That was my point.

[narby]

Yes absolutely we can deport 10 million people, by fining and jailing the people who hire them

Sure. And that same line was said over and over and over during this discussion in the 80's.

Guess what? It didn't happen. Even with new laws to allow it.

It won't happen now either, and if you'll pay attention to what's going on in Congress right now, that kind of get-tough talk isn't even on their lips.

So I predict it won't happen now either.

Now what?

[dennisw]

Not true. I don't have the time during this discussion to look up the facts, but around the turn of the century we took in a huge number of immigrants. Many millions, in a very short period.

I think the numbers were something like 1/3 of the entire population of the country was born elsewhere. That would be like having 60 million illegals here now, not 10 million.

You are a liar. It was not 33%. More like 8-10%

[CowboyJay]

Yup. And Representative Tancredo takes the oath of office that he swore seriously. If he felt that his loyalties were elsewhere he would abstain from voting or leave office.

The man knows the meaning of 'Representative Republic', 'duty', and 'honor'. He's a real Christian, and a real American. Not some harlot trying to use their faith to put leftist anti-American legislation across.

[narby]

[...some line on a map.] That makes it pretty clear what your country means to you. (assuming your a U.S. citizen)

Insults won't get you anywhere with the Hispanic community, and it won't get you anywhere with me either.

What that line means is I can imagine what the illegal is thinking.

Obviously reading comprehension is not your best suit.

[BlackbirdSST]

If you have your way, the Republicans will have no legacy, and communists like Hillary will run this country. There is no way we're going to arrest 10+ million people and do anything with them. Did you see that half million in Downtown LA the other day? Just imagine if every one of them picked up one rock and threw it. Or flicked a bic on a building. Forcing that number of people to do anything against their will just won't happen, unless you're willing to kill them all. And I'm not. Confrontation with these people will merely force them into a corner where they will never learn english, never assimilate, and will seriously take the American Southwest back into Mexican control. You want that? Then get stubborn. These mexicans will win in the end if we force a fight. If only because they have more babies. Just like the EU will soon be muslim. The only rational answer that keeps the US the US is to assimilate these folks. And they will *not* assimilate unless we can persuade them to *want* to assimilate. Confrontation won't do that.

That's so pathetic, it bears repeating. What if every armed American returned one shot in anger for every rock thrown? They declared War, let's see 'em win it! Blackbird.

[narby]

Amnesty in any form is liberalization of the law, liberaliztion of our ethics, and liberalization of our sovereignty. You're in extreme denial, here or purposely on the wrong side.

No, I'm realistic.

Sometimes you have to hold your nose and swallow the medicine. We didn't fix this right in the 80's so the problem is worse now. We still have to fix this right, or we'll be right back here again in 20 years, only worse off still.

[Brad’s Gramma]

.....or the fact that we are lumped in with lawbreakers because we're hispanic.

Not in my mind, you're not.

[Brad’s Gramma]

I got a nice (cough) personal reply RIGHT BACK!!!!

Whoo HOOOOOOO!!! :)

[Jane Austen]

I have note a couple of comments by you regarding these illegal aliens, who you must admit pose a great danger for this country. Yet you keep bringing up abortion for some reasons. To divert the discussion? Or you have a guilty conscience about it?

[CowboyJay]

"Really? Not having the proper papers and breaking civil statutes makes you an 'invader' now? Interesting defenition..."

Nope. Encroaching our borders in violation of our criminal codes and sovereignty makes them an invader. Bush's failure to respond to them as such makes him guilty of deriliction of duty as our Commander in Chief, and in violation of the sacred oath of office that he swore as our President.

[narby]

thishas been going on longer then 20 yrs

Yeah, but there were only a fraction of the numbers of illegals when this subject came up in the 80's. The problem is exponentially worse now, and will only go downhill from here.

[RFT1]

Even before Prop 187, the Hispanic vote usually broke for Democrats by a 2-1 margin, on rare occasion, a statewide GOP canidate maybe got close to 40%, but that was on rare occasion, and that was when the Hispanic vote was largely 3rd generation + Mexican-Americans.

Again, go to the Barrios, hardly bastions of social conservatism.

[Dane]

Yup. And Representative Tancredo takes the oath of office that he swore seriously. If he felt that his loyalties were elsewhere he would abstain from voting or leave office.

Yeah really especially after he ran for a fourth term after stating a "promise", that he would only run for 3.

[CowboyJay]

"We didn't fix this right in the 80's so the problem is worse now."

You're either in denial, or purposely lying. In 1986, we granted legal status to 3 million illegals. NOW there are 12-20 MILLION illegals.

[Praxeus]

I am not paranoid, I am right.

And all your twisting and spinning is not going to change the facts.

And I don't recall any other immigrant group burning American flags or flying them upside down etc. And they all were treated pretty shabbily.

What defines the mexicans as invaders is they came here illegally.. they HATE us.. they HATE our history.. they HATE our traditions.. they HATE our culture.. they hate our heroes.. they HATE the Alamo.... They seek to TAKE what is ours in one form or another. INVADERS, plain and simple.

They see things as us and them, and so I see things as us and them. Them is in US's land. Time for Us to get them OUT.

[narby]

Narby..you talk like you're scared to death.You worry me.Calm down now,when they revolt someone will protect you.

There won't be any revolt. The demographics will simply overwelm what we know of American culture. My grandkids will grow up in Mexico North, and will never know what this country was really like.

That is unless we get off our sorry duff and make americans of these 10 million. The alternative is to wait until they make mexicans out of our grandchildren by shear numbers alone.

[Brad’s Gramma]

I'm talking about the messages we should be sending to the mexican community,

Whoooooooo boy. I think I'll not comment...