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Iraqi Documents Are Put on Web, and Search Is On [FR's jveritas makes the news]
NY Times ^ | March 28, 2006 | SCOTT SHANE

Posted on 03/27/2006 10:33:24 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON, March 27 — American intelligence agencies and presidential commissions long ago concluded that Saddam Hussein had no unconventional weapons and no substantive ties to Al Qaeda before the 2003 invasion.

But now, an unusual experiment in public access is giving anyone with a computer a chance to play intelligence analyst and second-guess the government.

Under pressure from Congressional Republicans, the director of national intelligence has begun a yearlong process of posting on the Web 48,000 boxes of Arabic-language Iraqi documents captured by American troops.

Less than two weeks into the project, and with only 600 out of possibly a million documents and video and audio files posted, some conservative bloggers are already asserting that the material undermines the official view.

On his blog last week, Ray Robison, a former Army officer from Alabama, quoted a document reporting a supposed scheme to put anthrax into American leaflets dropped in Iraq and declared: "Saddam's W.M.D. and terrorist connections all proven in one document!!!"

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All the documents, which are available on fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm, have received at least a quick review by Arabic linguists and do not alter the government's official stance, officials say. On some tapes already released, in fact, Mr. Hussein expressed frustration that he did not have unconventional weapons.

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"I'm trying to pick up documents that shed light on the political debate," said Joseph G. Shahda, 34, a Lebanese-born engineer who lives in a Boston suburb and is spending hours every evening on translations for the conservative Free Republic site. "I think we prematurely concluded there was no W.M.D. and no ties to Al Qaeda."

Mr. Shahda said he was proud he could help make the documents public. "I live in this great country, and it's a time of war," he said. "This is the least I can do."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: computers; espionage; frinthenews; internet; iraq; iraqiintelligence; jveritas; prewardocs; terrorism; waronterrorwot
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To: jveritas
Joseph-Congrats, I think. Thanks for all you do.

That said, this article shows the Clymers at the Slimes read FR, and, in particular, your work on the prewar docs. They do not, however, report that which is said in them. No surprise there, eh?....

81 posted on 03/28/2006 7:35:27 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: neverdem

From the article>>>"All the documents, which are available on fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm, have received at least a quick review by Arabic linguists and do not alter the government's official stance,"<<<<<

Does a "Quick review" count as intelligence analysis at the NYT? One would think that a true study would require extensive cross-comparisons and collations and so forth between documents, looking for patterns and stuff that may be missed by a quick review.

That appears to be happening now.


82 posted on 03/28/2006 7:40:24 AM PST by RugerM77
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To: woofie

Most sincere thanks from me too. Way to go Jveritas, you da man!


83 posted on 03/28/2006 7:41:40 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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To: neverdem
"I'm trying to pick up documents that shed light on the political debate," said Joseph G. Shahda, 34, a Lebanese-born engineer who lives in a Boston suburb and is spending hours every evening on translations for the conservative Free Republic site. "I think we prematurely concluded there was no W.M.D. and no ties to Al Qaeda." Mr. Shahda said he was proud he could help make the documents public. "I live in this great country, and it's a time of war," he said. "This is the least I can do."

Thank you freeper Shahda -- whoever you are... ( anyone know?)

84 posted on 03/28/2006 7:59:07 AM PST by GOPJ (Peace happens when evil is vanquished -- Cal Thomas)
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To: neverdem
"I'm trying to pick up documents that shed light on the political debate," said Joseph G. Shahda, 34, a Lebanese-born engineer who lives in a Boston suburb and is spending hours every evening on translations for the conservative Free Republic site. "I think we prematurely concluded there was no W.M.D. and no ties to Al Qaeda."

Wow! Congrats and well-deserved praise for jveritas!

85 posted on 03/28/2006 8:02:05 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: jveritas

Thank you for your service to our country. But remember who you are fighting, both the phony news media and the killers of women and children. They have published your name and town. Watch your back Patriot, watch your back.


86 posted on 03/28/2006 8:08:02 AM PST by W.Lee
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To: jveritas


jveritas,
You are on your way to reaching Buckhead greatness!
Good job!


87 posted on 03/28/2006 8:14:34 AM PST by JRochelle
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To: RugerM77
Intelligence officials had serious concerns about turning loose an army of amateurs on a warehouse full of raw documents that include hearsay, disinformation and forgery.

These docs were found in the stinking Iraqi Defense Ministry building. Why the he!! would there be hearsay and forgeries there? Arrogant pieces of excrement.

88 posted on 03/28/2006 8:18:07 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: jveritas

keep up the good work


89 posted on 03/28/2006 8:25:05 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

90 posted on 03/28/2006 8:27:08 AM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: justa-hairyape
"But now, an unusual experiment in public access is giving anyone with a computer a chance to play intelligence analyst and second-guess the government."

It should say "anyone with a computer who can read Arabic." But notice - all of a sudden - their skepticism is directed towards those who want to "second-guess" the government, rather than towards the government itself? I guess "second-guessing" the government is only ok when it fits the agenda of the NYT.
91 posted on 03/28/2006 8:37:32 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Rick_Michael
Everything is on the prewardocs keyword list,...assuming you know how to use that facility!
92 posted on 03/28/2006 8:38:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: GRRRRR
"Of course, it NEVER occurred to the NYSlimes to start translations of the docs on their own...FReepers, doing the jobs the LameStream Media won't do..."

Again. The MSM already has their "Bush lied/no WMD" storyline, and aren't going to try very hard to change that. They have too much invested in it.
93 posted on 03/28/2006 8:40:18 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: SittinYonder; cantfindagoodscreenname; JudgemAll

It was on that thread that started with the Globe interview I think.....


94 posted on 03/28/2006 8:45:58 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: neverdem
"But now, an unusual experiment in public access is giving anyone with a computer a chance to play intelligence analyst and second-guess the government."

Having lived in NYC for 10+ years, here's my translation of this phrase from the NYT: Bush is circumventing our elite experts and allowing unwashed non NYT persons to translate these articles and second-guess our contentions.
This is grossly unfair as it undermines our ability to Print Only the News we see Fit to Print!
95 posted on 03/28/2006 9:03:29 AM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: justa-hairyape; jveritas
Could not read past this sentence. Jveritas is doing original translations. That is not second guessing the government.

Excellent point.

And thank you jveritas for all of your hard work!

96 posted on 03/28/2006 9:04:23 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: jveritas; neverdem

Thank you for the ping, neverdem. Thank you jveritas for your work.

I add my voice to others here worrying about your safety and being exposed by the MSM.

Ironically the MSM are admitting that the conservative FR site has thoughtful people willing to do the work they won't - find the truth. :)


97 posted on 03/28/2006 10:05:04 AM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: BlessedByLiberty; All; blinachka; finnman69; CellPhoneSurfer; Galveston Grl; JRochelle; W.Lee; ...
Thank you very much for your nice posts. Let us remember that the real effort and great sacrifice are done on a daily basis by our brave troops and to whom we should continue to send our great thanks and deep gratitude.

God bless our brave troops.

God bless America.

98 posted on 03/28/2006 10:54:08 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
Hell, you deserve it. Take a break with a good laugh, FRiend.

Something funny.
99 posted on 03/28/2006 10:59:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: neverdem

Thank you, jveritas! Keep up the excellent work!!!


100 posted on 03/28/2006 11:17:57 AM PST by Proudcongal
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