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Is it time for a constitutional convention called by the people re: illegal immigration?

Posted on 03/27/2006 5:46:36 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/27/2006 8:53:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Jim Robinson
Good morning.

It's pretty clear that TPTB either haven't a clue as to how to respond to the invasion or it fits their agenda.

The Net has shown that it is at least possible for the People to affect history and the Net can provide the tools. We must try at the least, eh.

Personally, I do not see an answer to this that doesn't involve violence. In my youth this seemed normal. I find this option less attractive now that I have a family.

Michael Frazier
381 posted on 03/29/2006 9:55:59 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: All
oath of office for members of Congress:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

Where is our Congress persons Allegiance?

382 posted on 03/29/2006 10:01:23 AM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
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To: Jim Robinson; First_Salute
More of Bush Administration refusing to enforce the laws that it chooses to not enforce.

U.S. Ends Undocumented Immigrant Stings

383 posted on 03/29/2006 11:53:52 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Jim Robinson; radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; TexasCajun; razorback-bert; ...

Constitutional Convention Ping?

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


384 posted on 03/29/2006 12:05:04 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: kingu

Sign me up. Even if we accomplish nothing we may be able to organize millions marching in the streets.


385 posted on 03/29/2006 12:16:01 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Jim Robinson

There is a cleaner, easier, simpler way to do this.

A GENERAL STRIKE.

A mass strike and protest acoss the entire nation to voice our outrage. Tens of millions of true citizens in the streets shutting down America for a day (or more). Time to voice some anger.

Free Republic, Rush, Hannity, Michelle Malkin, hundreds of TV hosts and columnists all beating the drums for a common goal, a set date 3-6 months in the future so as to gain mass publicity.

If done right, the nation could be shut down. This would send ripples through Washington and alarm then into reverting back to more conservative ways.

If we can't organize to do this, then we will never be able to do it the other ways.


386 posted on 03/29/2006 12:16:40 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The purpose of this forum is to fight socialism (see FR homepage), not to defend Republicans.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

You keep bring this up. Here is the constituion:

"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress."

IOW, any admendment - whatever its source - would have to approved by 3/4 of the states. The idea that some "crazy" idea is going to proposed and then ratified by 3/4 of the states is absurd.

The safeguard is always the same. Whether an admendment is proposed by Congress or by a convention, it has to ratified by 3/4 of the states.


387 posted on 03/29/2006 12:29:18 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would pay money to see Federal Marshalls walk into the Senate and give these assholes their walking papers. About half would have a stroke right then and there. Just a Dreamin!


388 posted on 03/29/2006 12:53:01 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: HiJinx
Roger that!

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


389 posted on 03/29/2006 1:07:36 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: First_Salute; B4Ranch

Bump to an excellent post.


390 posted on 03/29/2006 1:15:10 PM PST by planekT ([---www.wadejacoby.com/pedro---})
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To: First_Salute

I agree. Where do we start. I want to start today. I don't want to have to wait for an election. It'll be too late.


391 posted on 03/29/2006 1:15:18 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Robinson

BIG reference ping.


392 posted on 03/29/2006 1:31:14 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: planekT

Yes, I am leaning to recalling him also.


393 posted on 03/29/2006 2:34:00 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: rcocean
You keep bring this up.

Breaching a topic "ONCE" does not constitute a broken form of "keep bring this up".

Here is the constituion:

I know exactly what the Constitution say's, which means absolutely zero to what passes as a Politician these day's. No thanks, you and them can keep your grubby little paws off of my Constitution. Thanks for playing! Blackbird.

394 posted on 03/29/2006 3:44:18 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Diapers, like Politicians, need regular changing for the same reason!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Count me in. I will help organize. I will not sit idly by while my country is destroyed by enemies both foreign and domestic.

Semper Fi'
Jarhead


395 posted on 03/29/2006 4:12:31 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: hispanarepublicana

Bump to find that link. Thank you.


396 posted on 03/29/2006 5:22:43 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Small-L

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php

Ever read this? I realize it's a little too limited for perhaps a majority vote but it's an excellent read. They are where they need to be on limited federal government, 2nd amendment, abortion and immigration.


397 posted on 03/29/2006 6:13:08 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: hispanarepublicana

I'm not really sure I agree with that and would be interested in your thoughts. I almost feel the need to buy things "Made in Mexico" so these people will have economic opportunity in their own country and not feel the need to come to America.

Same thing with "Made in China". If there were no factories in China, the people would be more inclined to flee and where does everyone want to go when they are fleeing economic depression, I think we know the answer to that.


398 posted on 03/29/2006 6:23:34 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: BlackbirdSST
There's no hope of convincing you.

I posted in response to those who read your post, share your concern, and have an open mind.

Given your post, I wanted give people a chance to read what the constitution SAYS (as opposed to your opinion of what it says). It clearly states, any amendment proposed by a convention, will have to ratified by 3/4 of the states.

Accordingly, any concern that a Convention will go *wild* or *crazy* and change our constitution with *crazy amendments* is absurd. Because any *crazy* proposed change to the constitution will have to ratified by 3/4 of the states.
399 posted on 03/29/2006 6:41:32 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: HiJinx; MamaDearest; WestCoastGal
In ONE word YES!!!
400 posted on 03/29/2006 6:52:06 PM PST by JustPiper (Illegal Protesting Jihad going on)
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