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Latin leaders balk at US 'wall' (Mega barfer)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | March 27, 2006 | Danna Harman

Posted on 03/27/2006 9:44:07 AM PST by indcons

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To: clawrence3

Non-citizens are not guaranteed any constitutional rights under the constitution other than due process. Illegal aliens are not due any constitutional rights. They encroached our borders unlawfully and are criminal invaders.


161 posted on 03/27/2006 3:52:27 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Abundy
"Let's start dumping our homeless; or gangbangers; our crack addicts and our liberals in Mexico and see how quickly Fox builds a wall..."

You're on to something now. Save us plenty of money on jails and unneeded social programs. Give that hypocritical SOB Fox and his buddies a taste of their own medicine.

162 posted on 03/27/2006 3:54:52 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: clawrence3
Mexicans have shown that they do not care about our immigration laws so even with a guest worker program that provides for all our labor needs many more mexicans will try to come illegally. The fence, which is 700 miles long not the 2000+ La Raza would lead you to believe is necessary because mexicans cant be trusted to wait in line no matter how generous we are.
163 posted on 03/27/2006 3:57:14 PM PST by mthom
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To: clawrence3
Mexicans have shown that they do not care about our immigration laws so even with a guest worker program that provides for all our labor needs many more mexicans will try to come illegally. The fence, which is 700 miles long not the 2000+ La Raza would lead you to believe is necessary because mexicans cant be trusted to wait in line no matter how generous we are.
164 posted on 03/27/2006 3:57:18 PM PST by mthom
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To: Anita1

You may be right. However, the so-called assimilation is quite selective even among Americans of European descent. Remember the expression of ethnic pride during the various parades (incl. the recent St. Patrick's Day one)? This tendency is not new even among communities that have existed here for a while.

That said, I agree with you on the Mexican propensity for their racist, pro-La Raza sentiments. In fact, in his book, Who are We?, Samuel Huntington demonstrates how the concept of assimilation is entirely missing among these criminals. The move toward bilingual education and this demand for reconquista "rights" are both clear reminders of the dangers facing this country.

Finally, you do realize that there is a difference between mail-order brides who want to come to America and this Mexican/Central American/South American rabble, don't you? The former wants to come here with the eventual goal of assimilation; the latter want to assimilate the USA into Mexico.


165 posted on 03/27/2006 3:57:31 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: clawrence3

"if added costs in agriculture, service industries, etc. take down the economy of the entire left side of America, that is going to impact the NE sooner or later."

Those added costs will only be at the side benefit of higher wages. This means fewer will qualify for entitlement benefits, and will also lower unemployment and latent unemployment in those areas. This will also result in a higher percentage of wages paid out remaining within the domestic economy instead of being sent to Mexico. This will actually stimulate economic growth.


166 posted on 03/27/2006 4:01:53 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: clawrence3

We won't have to round them up, deport them, and make sure none return - Because -

If employers are fined for hiring illegals - the employers will quit hiring them and the illegals will have no work!

Then - the illegals will find a way to get back to their homes in Mexico just like they got here! We won't have to deport them!

Because - they have no love for America - Just our money - which they won't be able to get!


167 posted on 03/27/2006 4:02:30 PM PST by Anita1 (You can't argue against the truth!)
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To: clawrence3
"I don't want the grants, or the purse strings / control of federal dictates. I am a big States' Rights kind of fiscal conservative who thinks the federal government has grown too large and should collect LESS taxes. Considering I graduated from law school 10 years ago, who is the "moran"?"

Are you an immigration lawyer? Do either you professionally or pro-bono work for any advocacy group currently pushing amnesty?

You have actually taken a solidly pro-illegal stance based upon other issues in seperate threads. Your current 'fiscally conservative' tack is suspect at best.

168 posted on 03/27/2006 4:05:36 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: indcons

Actually - I know of quite a few Filippinas who have lived in this country for quite a number of years who have no intentions of giving up their citizenship to the Philippines and have a great desire to return to the Philippines when they have accummulated a good amount of money. That is why I was interested in the program; I wanted to see if my observations were valid or imagined.


169 posted on 03/27/2006 4:09:28 PM PST by Anita1 (You can't argue against the truth!)
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To: Anita1

I have said tis before and I'll say it again - you cannot have divided loyalties as a citizen of any country. Hyphenated Americans have no place in America. Period.


170 posted on 03/27/2006 4:12:50 PM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: clawrence3
Please call them INVADERS and don't compare them to people who are legal aliens!


President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!

Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.
171 posted on 03/27/2006 4:14:22 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: clawrence3
As for Constitutional rights that EVERY PERSON, whether illegal alien or U.S. citizen has,

From a purely rational basis, only U.S. citizens can have rights under the U.S. Constitution.

"We the People..."

172 posted on 03/27/2006 4:35:35 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: clawrence3
Waaaaaahhhhhh!

One thing I've noticed about you Frettin' FReeperstm: you spend an inordinate amount of time whining about your pweshish little hurt feelers...

173 posted on 03/27/2006 8:59:52 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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To: indcons
Fox is everything he claims about the U.S. Mexico treats border-hoppers into its territory like dirt.
174 posted on 03/27/2006 10:53:36 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: HiJinx
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


175 posted on 03/28/2006 7:19:07 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: indcons

The next president of mexico wants to start a gurellia war here in the US by recruiting illegal immigrants.


176 posted on 03/28/2006 3:07:51 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: clawrence3

...you can pick up that extra money from the Legal Services Administration, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities...build the triple fence


177 posted on 03/30/2006 1:11:04 PM PST by Reagan 76
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To: Travis McGee

Is there an association of border patrol agents? Have they come out for/against this proposal?


178 posted on 03/30/2006 1:30:51 PM PST by Reagan 76
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To: indcons

My solution: snipers to the border.


179 posted on 03/30/2006 1:32:13 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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