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Afghan judge says courts will not bow to outside pressure in Christian convert case
jurist.law.pitt.edu ^ | Thursday, March 23, 2006 | Jeannie Shawl

Posted on 03/23/2006 5:04:32 PM PST by Proctor

Thursday, March 23, 2006

Afghan judge says courts will not bow to outside pressure in Christian convert case

Jeannie Shawl at 9:57 AM ET

[JURIST] Afghanistan Supreme Court Judge Ansarullah Mawlavizada said Thursday that Afghan courts will not bow to outside pressure in the case of Abdul Rahman [JURIST report], who has been jailed for converting to Christianity and who could face the death penalty [JURIST report] under Islamic sharia law [CFR backgrounder] if convicted of apostasy. Mawlavizada said that the "judiciary will act independently and neutrally" and said that the court's will follow the country's constitution [text], but stressed that Afghanistan [JURIST news archive] is an Islamic country. Mawlavizada said that a court will begin to consider Rahman's case in the next several days and noted that if a court sentences Rahman to death, the sentence would have to be upheld by Afghan President Hamid Karzai [BBC profile].

The case has drawn international outcry and has caused problems for Karzai, who depends on the support of international troops [NATO ISAF website] to maintain stability in the country. President Bush on Wednesday called the case "deeply troubling" [transcript], saying he was concerned "that a country we helped liberate would hold a person to account because they chose a particular religion over another." Bush said that the US would use its influence to "remind [Afghanistan] that there are universal values." Reuters has more.

5:36 PM ET - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Thursday that he had received assurances from Karzai that Rahman will not face the death penalty. According to Harper, Karzai assured him that the situation would be resolved "in a way that fully respects religious rights, religious freedoms and human rights." AFP has more. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, meanwhile, called Karzai Thursday to seek a "favorable resolution" of the case. AP has more.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdulrahman; afghanistan; bush; christians; freedom; islam; libertarians
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To: Star Traveler
So you totally disagree with W, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Krauthammer, Rush, Hannity,Ingrahm..... and the United States Armed Forces.

Not sure where that puts you.
61 posted on 03/23/2006 7:53:04 PM PST by Blackirish (Spring yeah)
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To: Blackirish

You said -- "So you totally disagree with W, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Krauthammer, Rush, Hannity,Ingrahm..... and the United States Armed Forces."

Well, they just don't know what to do about the problem. And therein lies the bigger problem. They're trapped in this situation just like the Bible says. And the Bible does make clear that it's going to bring the whole world to war. It sure looks like that's going to happen. It looks like Iran is next on the list. After that, who knows?

It's a mess, that's for sure.

Read Post #59. That's another person who says the same thing -- eliminate Islam. He's on that radio program. Listen to him. He apparently knows what he's talking about having talked to the terrorists, directly -- himself.

Regards,
Star Traveler


62 posted on 03/23/2006 8:12:32 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Decepticon

yea, I am making a fortune - funny what you wrote is like what someone else wrote which sounds like the talking points all over talk radio and television.


63 posted on 03/23/2006 8:28:55 PM PST by Proctor (I risk my life to bring you http://www.historyofjihad.org & http://www.islamcomicbook.com/)
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To: Proctor; Decepticon
A way to defend Bush on the sly over this - I know - I read several of the talking points memos (the other talking point is that this will blow over because they will release him, etc.).

I guess I'm going to violate my arguing with an idiot rule here...Why are you acting as if Bush needs to be defended by his supporters? You're acting as if he caused this guy to be arrested.

Are you arrguing that we shouldn't have deposed the Taliban? If not, what's your beef?

64 posted on 03/23/2006 8:53:10 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Proctor

Hey newbie...when you discuss someone on FR, you're supposed to address the reply to them as well, so you're not "talking behind their back." As a newbie, you probably didn't know that because your a newbie.


65 posted on 03/23/2006 8:55:27 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Proctor

Hey newbie...when you discuss someone on FR, you're supposed to address the reply to them as well, so you're not "talking behind their back." As a newbie, you probably didn't know that because you're a newbie.


66 posted on 03/23/2006 8:55:42 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Are you arrguing that we shouldn't have deposed the Taliban?

Deposed them? How about chased them on into Pakistan that founded and funded them.

Then refused to reconcile these Taliban throwbacks by creating a sharia linked constitution so we can have the warlords pretend not to be Talibanish anymore and join the new govt.

I am committed to total war for total victory in Afghanistan - and that means Christians don't get to be killed for Christ. That means State Department spokesman Sean McCormack does not get to say "This is clearly an Afghan decision. They are a sovereign country." over a matter of a Christian being in a court for his life for his faith in a land sacred American blood was shed to liberate.

That hard to understand? That was not in the party talking points and thus have comprehension what it means?

67 posted on 03/23/2006 8:59:26 PM PST by Proctor (I risk my life to bring you http://www.historyofjihad.org & http://www.islamcomicbook.com/)
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To: Mr. Silverback
You said newbie a few dozen times. That you joined on here longer does not gain your position brownie points in an attempt to counter my point. It in facts makes you look pathetic.

Though I mentioned your comments - I was not talking about you. So that point is also moot, oldie.

68 posted on 03/23/2006 9:02:22 PM PST by Proctor (I risk my life to bring you http://www.historyofjihad.org & http://www.islamcomicbook.com/)
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To: Proctor

Been to both those sites. Good work, keep it up!


69 posted on 03/23/2006 9:18:14 PM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: kanawa; Mr. Silverback

Bookmark the links - Mr. Silverback (I pinged you this time) is trying to get me banned (zotted was the term he used) because I dared call out Bush's weak handling of this issue.


70 posted on 03/23/2006 9:26:04 PM PST by Proctor (I risk my life to bring you http://www.historyofjihad.org & http://www.islamcomicbook.com/)
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To: Proctor

I have to applaud this man and give him the credit he deserves for standing up for his faith in the face of enemies all around. And giving all he has for it.

I imagine it must rub them the wrong way that he doesn't strap on a bomb to do it.

May God keep him.


71 posted on 03/23/2006 9:38:45 PM PST by Birmingham Rain
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To: Proctor

A sovereign country whose butt was hauled out of a sling by the good ole USA.

What are thinking? The New & Improved Taliban?


72 posted on 03/23/2006 9:40:18 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: Proctor
Well, I hope you stick around.
It is though proper netiquette to ping a person if you mention or quote them in a post.
You're not the only poster who links to their blogs or sites,
as long as the big man doesn't complain I wouldn't worry too much what others say.
73 posted on 03/23/2006 9:43:06 PM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: Proctor
I am committed to total war for total victory in Afghanistan - and that means Christians don't get to be killed for Christ. That means State Department spokesman Sean McCormack does not get to say "This is clearly an Afghan decision. They are a sovereign country." over a matter of a Christian being in a court for his life for his faith in a land sacred American blood was shed to liberate.
Bad stuff happens around the world. It is hardly America's problem . I mean America should primarily defend its own and its allies citizens. Merely being a Christian is not something that connects you with America. It's someone else's problem . I mean do you want to invade every country where Christians are being persecuted ? Lets start with the PRC.
74 posted on 03/23/2006 9:46:38 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
75 posted on 03/23/2006 9:47:34 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Proctor
You said newbie a few dozen times. That you joined on here longer does not gain your position brownie points in an attempt to counter my point. It in facts makes you look pathetic.

Actually, my point with "newbie" is that you're making a lot of assumptions about what people think based on single posts. the crap you're slinging at people is the kind of stuff I usually see between Freepers who've been arguiing on and off about a single issue for years.

Though I mentioned your comments - I was not talking about you. So that point is also moot, oldie.

No, you just quoted me as part of a comment on people spewing "talking points." Nice try.

76 posted on 03/23/2006 9:55:31 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Decepticon; Proctor
Hey Decepticon...this troll has brass cojones the size of softballs to be talking about "talking points." Check this:

His post 13 to you.

His post 18 to me in the thread "Democratic Apostasy: The Martyrdom of Abdul Rahman

The first four paragraphs are exactly the same. Oopsies!

77 posted on 03/23/2006 9:56:10 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: Mr. Silverback

What a little coward you are to throw out that I am a troll (and the evidence I am one is that I slammed your opinion) in the hopes of getting me banned because I showed you up. Cowardly pathetic behavior.


78 posted on 03/24/2006 7:17:10 AM PST by Proctor (I risk my life to bring you http://www.historyofjihad.org & http://www.islamcomicbook.com/)
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To: Proctor
It's beginning to look like the orangutans are going to show the world they really are.
79 posted on 03/24/2006 7:19:05 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Proctor

We need to pull the hell out of Afghanistan TODAY.


80 posted on 03/24/2006 10:39:25 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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