Posted on 03/23/2006 5:04:32 PM PST by Proctor
Thursday, March 23, 2006
Afghan judge says courts will not bow to outside pressure in Christian convert case
Jeannie Shawl at 9:57 AM ET
[JURIST] Afghanistan Supreme Court Judge Ansarullah Mawlavizada said Thursday that Afghan courts will not bow to outside pressure in the case of Abdul Rahman [JURIST report], who has been jailed for converting to Christianity and who could face the death penalty [JURIST report] under Islamic sharia law [CFR backgrounder] if convicted of apostasy. Mawlavizada said that the "judiciary will act independently and neutrally" and said that the court's will follow the country's constitution [text], but stressed that Afghanistan [JURIST news archive] is an Islamic country. Mawlavizada said that a court will begin to consider Rahman's case in the next several days and noted that if a court sentences Rahman to death, the sentence would have to be upheld by Afghan President Hamid Karzai [BBC profile].
The case has drawn international outcry and has caused problems for Karzai, who depends on the support of international troops [NATO ISAF website] to maintain stability in the country. President Bush on Wednesday called the case "deeply troubling" [transcript], saying he was concerned "that a country we helped liberate would hold a person to account because they chose a particular religion over another." Bush said that the US would use its influence to "remind [Afghanistan] that there are universal values." Reuters has more.
5:36 PM ET - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Thursday that he had received assurances from Karzai that Rahman will not face the death penalty. According to Harper, Karzai assured him that the situation would be resolved "in a way that fully respects religious rights, religious freedoms and human rights." AFP has more. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, meanwhile, called Karzai Thursday to seek a "favorable resolution" of the case. AP has more.
Sadly, you are absolutely right.
Exactly. This is one of my many problems with Bush. He lied (or stated in ignorance), neither is excusable, that Islam is a religion of peace.
Bush thinks a democracy (or democratic republic) is good enough to help make things better in the middle east. The values of the people in the democracy determine what the nation will be like. We shouldn't sacrifice American blood to establish a new nation that does not have as its foundation the same rights we have in America (Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Expression, Freedom of the Press, etc). These rights should have been guaranteed in Afghanistan and likewise in Iraq, why weren't they?
I think it just became another casualty of war. People are finally waking up to the true objectives of Islam. Even some of the MSM is now talking about it. I never thought that would happen.
You asked -- "Why is he facing any charges?"
He's facing the charge of converting to another religion from Islam. That's a crime in Islam. That's a crime that has the death penalty.
This is not a joke. It's really a crime. If you leave Islam, you're in danger of either being murdered (and no Muslim would be held accountable for murdering an infidel) -- or -- being convicted and killed as a penalty of this crime.
And, everyone who is born into a Muslim family is *automatically* a Muslim (at the instant of birth). Since no one can leave without being murdered, you can see why Islam is "growing" very quickly.
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said -- "They won't go through with it......"
That might be what some politicians over there may want -- but -- that's not true of the judge or the Muslim clerics -- or -- even his own relatives, not to say anything about the Muslim public. It's his relatives that turned him into the authorities.
You can be sure that his relatives knew what they were doing and yet they were prepared to have the authorities kill him for such a crime. That gives you the mentality of the Muslims and the Islamic religion.
Regards,
Star Traveler
Maybe I did confuse you with someone else because your talking points were so alike. Behold:
What Republicans have morphed into are not conservatives.
I think they stumbled into 'democracy' (and by that I mean just holding elections) as a catch all way to get a quick result to show progress because real nation building lasts generations.
some CIA hired gun should have quietly done that - last week - with full deniability of course, to send the needed message here.
Naw, Afghans will only understand it if Karzai does it himself ~ personally.
That just triggered a memory flash.
What ever happened to that American soldier of fortune who claimed he was working for the CIA to track down al-Qaeda and was arrested and placed in an Afghan jail (along with some other Americans on his team). The Pentagon said he was a guy looking to cash in on the bin Laden bounty and disavowed him. We have not heard of him since. No wonder people hate and mistrust the MSM - they leave loose threads - drop stories without explanation, lie, etc.
If Moslems are ever to be trusted at the cash-register in world society, they are going to have to change these laws.
Is my name Mr. Silverback?. Did you EVER hear of Christian persecution from the MSM during the clinton administration and do you think that might be relevant to this discussion?
I don't really care if you think my posts are talking points or not, perhaps some FReepers can think deeper than..islam hates christians.....which, newb, you apparently can't.
Actually, what they think is that everybody is born a Muslim, and later on "deceived" by the family into becoming a Christian, Jew..." That's why it's ok to forcefully convert people into Islam.
You said -- "It gives you a view of what a segment of Islam preaches....we must marginalize them and win over the others."
The whole religion of Islam is totally defective, evil and abhorrent. There is no redemption for anything in it. Get rid of it entirely and save the world a lot of trouble.
Regards,
Star Traveler
And another thing....your tag line is pure profit orientated, you're not risking diddly, other than your bank account....if not let me know what theater of operations you are operating in and I'll retract this post, publicly.
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