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Mrs. Clinton Says G.O.P.'s Immigration Plan Is at Odds With the Bible
NY Times ^ | 3/23/ | Nina Bernstein

Posted on 03/23/2006 12:28:28 PM PST by Crackingham

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton invoked the Bible yesterday to criticize a stringent border security measure that, among other things, would make it a federal crime to offer aid to illegal immigrants.

"It is hard to believe that a Republican leadership that is constantly talking about values and about faith would put forth such a mean-spirited piece of legislation," she said of the measure, which was passed by the House of Representatives in December and mirrored a companion Senate bill introduced last week by Senator Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican and the majority leader.

"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scripture because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself," she said. "We need to sound the alarm about what is being done in the Congress."

Mrs. Clinton, who is running for re-election this year and is leading in polls for the Democratic presidential nomination, spoke at a news conference in Manhattan with more than 30 immigrant leaders after meeting with them privately.

The meeting took place in an atmosphere of mounting urgency, as the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops called on its flock to oppose the measure, and tens of thousands of immigrants around the country stepped up a series of protest rallies in anticipation of a Senate vote on competing immigration bills next week.

Mr. Frist's bill, like the House measure, would make it a crime to be in the United States without proper papers and would add guards and fencing along the Mexican border, and speed deportation.

Some versions, including one proposed by Senator Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, would expand the definition of alien smuggling to include help to illegal immigrants already here.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; border; bordersecurity; clinton; hillary; hillaryclinton; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; irony; jezebel; lackoff; lakoff; religiousleft; shewhomustnotbenamed; walis; wallis; winwithwords
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To: clawrence3

Not if you notify the proper authorities, it isn't.

Otherwise, yes, feeding and sheltering a criminal constitutes "harboring."


261 posted on 03/24/2006 7:53:50 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

Simply put. Well said. Clawrence 2?


262 posted on 03/24/2006 8:06:20 AM PST by Holicheese (Hey whitey, wheres your hat?)
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To: clawrence3
Did you find the wording?

No, I asked you where the words in it were that YOU used. Are they there? That's up to you to back up what you state as fact.

263 posted on 03/24/2006 8:29:17 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

I was asking if you found these words from HR 4437:

". . . assists, encourages, directs, or induces a person to reside in or remain in the United States, or to attempt to reside in or remain in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such person is an alien who lacks lawful authority to reside in or remain in the United States;"

I've posted the link several times. I don't think I can "back it up" any more than that. If you don't want to discuss the proposed law rationally, fine by me.


264 posted on 03/24/2006 8:35:17 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: FormerLib

We will have to agree to disagree then.


265 posted on 03/24/2006 8:36:15 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

But the jury's verdict will be final.


266 posted on 03/24/2006 8:38:00 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

"Jury" as in whatever the Senate decides next week? Man's laws can always be changed.


267 posted on 03/24/2006 8:40:34 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Alberta's Child

Of course, some of your FR compatriots do think "one hot meal and one night's shelter" should be criminalized - I wonder if they think helping your illegal alien disabled motorist will be some day too . . .


268 posted on 03/24/2006 8:43:34 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Nice try. These are your words, that you said were in 4437.

Did you know that HR 4437 would make it illegal for the Church to offer an illegal alien a hot meal and shelter for the night?

If the illegal is fed or sheltered and then turned in (THE LAW) no one is going to be prosecuted.

Now, go play your word games with someone else.

269 posted on 03/24/2006 8:45:00 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

As long as you admit "one hot meal and one night's shelter (without turning them in)" could be prosecuted - that's my whole point.


270 posted on 03/24/2006 8:52:46 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

"Jury" as is 12 of your peers who decide guilt or innocence.


271 posted on 03/24/2006 9:03:41 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

Oh O.K., you have a nice weekend too.


272 posted on 03/24/2006 9:09:06 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

I think you're referring to the Catholic church, I would say yes.

The Catholic church has a long way to go to overcome its Roman idol-worshipping, pagan-istic roots. I think, however, the last Pope was making enormous strides in that direction.


273 posted on 03/24/2006 9:29:30 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Fruit of the Spirit

Even if it is just "one hot meal and a single night's shelter"? How about if it's just one wafer during Holy Communion?


274 posted on 03/24/2006 9:36:26 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Shomer

"If the Government were to "criminalize" a particular act of "helping" - they are within their Rights as ordained by God to do so..."

I believe that only kings were ordained by God. Our government reps are elected by us...whether or not they pretend to represent us is another can of worms.


275 posted on 03/24/2006 9:37:34 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Crackingham

Hillary forgot to mention what Jesus thinks about ABORTION!


276 posted on 03/24/2006 9:37:46 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: G Larry

Really? What do you think Jesus Christ said about "ABORTION" while He was here in human form?


277 posted on 03/24/2006 9:39:05 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: dinoparty

It's not necessarily about helping her, it's more about bashing conservatives.


278 posted on 03/24/2006 9:39:47 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: clawrence3

If you think back to grade school english, "thinks" is present tense.


279 posted on 03/24/2006 9:42:06 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Crackingham

If Jesus is caught crossing the border, I'm all for a full parden.


280 posted on 03/24/2006 9:42:36 AM PST by Honcho
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