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''A lot of the clubs don't have smoking and get no big complaint," said Gordon Crosby, state VFW adjutant, who oversees 240 posts across Massachusetts. ''Smokers smoke outside. Some guys say they fought for their country and ought to be able to smoke. But most understand that second-hand smoke can be a problem."

Second hand smoke?  What problem????  How can Gordon Crosby, state VFW adjutant, a grown man, be so easily swayed by the lies of the anti's about second hand smoke?  Sounds like Gordon is just a little wimp who loves to be easily lead.  Pity, Gordon.  Vets usually stand up for what they fought for.

About 1 in 5 Massachusetts residents are smokers, and health advocates say the ban will help push smokers to quit.

QUIT??!!!  Haha!  Who's trying to kid who?!  What ever would MASS do without all the tax contributions the state gets from the Mass smokers?  

''The town said, 'We're going to prohibit smoking in these private clubs,' " said Christopher N. Banthin, deputy director of the Public Health Advocacy Institute at Northeastern University, who represented Athol in the case. ''People were being exposed to a known human carcinogen, people who had to be in there for work."

"We're going to prohibit smoking in these private clubs," said Chris Banthin, Public Health, as he pounded his fist on the table and spit from his mouth!  By God, we WILL ban smoking, Chris says.  Brown shirted jack boot, Chris.  March in time with your great Uncle, Hitler.

Numerous communities had banned smoking in private clubs long before the SJC decision, including Boston, Brookline, Lynn, Marblehead, and Saugus. ''We were concerned they would rule the other way," said Joyce Redford, program director for the North Shore Tobacco Control Program.

Oh Joyce!  Were you EVER down in the trenches in a bloody war fighting for your Country like our Vets were?  Are you even allowed to have membership in a Vet Club, Joyce?  Oh!  Yes! YOUR war is the war on smokers.  How prestiges of you to belong to the NORTH SHORE TOBACCO CONTROL PROGRAM.  How proud you must be Joyce!  Taking away freedoms our men fought to save. 

1 posted on 03/23/2006 3:59:55 AM PST by SheLion
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To: The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; ...
Public property: That which is purchased and maintained by tax dollars for the benefit of all people.

Private property: That which is not purchased or maintained by tax dollars and is for the benefit of the property owner.

2 posted on 03/23/2006 4:00:48 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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Towns allowed to ban smoking in private clubs

"private".... "private".... nope. No entry in my dictionary.

I could have sworn that used to be a real word with a meaning, but it's not there anymore.

4 posted on 03/23/2006 4:02:46 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SheLion

I guess it means the end of the private club via the second hand smoke dubious claim. Which next sin will be used to get into our rooms? Let me see, maybe we should get into those legislators' bank accounts & check what they buy or get in bribes since they're so fat & infatuated, it's not psychologicaly healthy as fat & stress are known carcinogens too.

All this is about is to track down regular social exchanges amongst people & deem them now as smuggling routes, because anything free to BigBrother is smuggling in his boot camp.

You and I have become government property without checks & balance by court authority laundering fiat.

The noxious addicts & launderers of feelings ain't the smokers in this fight.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 4:17:01 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: SheLion

And yet I bet all the people that want to ban smoking drive cars. BRAIN DEAD!


14 posted on 03/23/2006 5:00:48 AM PST by 1_Of_We
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To: SheLion
You vill march in lock step vith der Taxachoozetts Court!
Ve vill rule in your homes und klubs!


31 posted on 03/23/2006 6:25:48 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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I don't smoke and never have. That being said, I support the right of those who choose to smoke SINCE NO LAW IN THE LAND HAS BANNED SMOKING OUTRIGHT,

If tobacco was put on a forbidden list like cocaine, then the anti-smoking crowd would have some semblance of legality.

Suppose the party in the suit was a private club for smoking cigars? (there are such things) Should the members have to step outside their door into the public area where smoking is legal in order to smoke their cigars?

Ridiculous. The Nannie State at work.


37 posted on 03/23/2006 7:19:44 AM PST by wildbill
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