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To: SUSSA
If Your name is John McCain and your father and grandfather were famous admirals, violating the Military Code of Conduct by "aiding the enemy" translates into fodder for a political career, book deals, and adulation bordering on sainthood with the Navy never considering prosecution as an option. ...

Oh, B.S., this is some of the same kind hard right wing propanda lies that smear fine military veterans who served their country but are not on the same side of the political fence, and it is traditionally comes from those who never knew how a uniform fits but knew exactly where to go to escape combat and/or draft status (i.e. chickenhawks). McCain is a bonafide POW who suffered physical and mental anguish at the hands of the N. Vietnamese. Next, people such as yourself will be falling for RW propaganda smearing the likes of heroes such as Sgt. Alvin York or Lt. Audie Murphy because they happened to be poor, Southern and grew up as Democrats.

1,098 posted on 03/23/2006 12:49:35 PM PST by meandog (Mohammad is the devil!)
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To: meandog

Not according to his Senior Ranking Officers and others who were POWs at the time. McCain is a "hero" like Kerry is a hero. The vets are going to "Swift Boat" him just like they did Kerry.


1,100 posted on 03/23/2006 12:53:32 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: meandog
McCain is a bonafide POW who suffered physical and mental anguish at the hands of the N. Vietnamese.

But who, having considered suicide following his three years of *cooperation* with the North Vietnamese, is unfit for further public office.

In 1965, when Smith and McClure stepped from the horrors of a bamboo cage prison into the humiliation of a court-marshal for their anti-war statements, Navy pilot McCain and Carol Shepp, a tall Philadelphia model were married.

Two years later, on Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.

The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.

McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."

McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.


He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince" and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.

There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.

"The broadcast was beamed to American servicemen in South Vietnam as a part of a propaganda series attempting to counter charges by U.S. Defense Secretary Melvin Laird that American prisoners are being mistreated in North Vietnam."

McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.



1,139 posted on 03/23/2006 1:51:08 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: meandog
Former POWs Say They "Doubted" Reds Tortured McCain

Two former POWs, Air Force Colonels Ted Guy and Gordon "Swede" Larson, said in a March 25, 1999, Phoenix New Times feature article that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it. Both Guy and Larson were senior ranking officers (SRO's) in McCain's POW camp at a time he claims he was in solitary confinement and being tortured

Larson told the New Times, "Between the two of us, it's our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as 'The Plantation'].

1,151 posted on 03/23/2006 2:06:13 PM PST by SUSSA
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