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To: meandog
McCain is a bonafide POW who suffered physical and mental anguish at the hands of the N. Vietnamese.

But who, having considered suicide following his three years of *cooperation* with the North Vietnamese, is unfit for further public office.

In 1965, when Smith and McClure stepped from the horrors of a bamboo cage prison into the humiliation of a court-marshal for their anti-war statements, Navy pilot McCain and Carol Shepp, a tall Philadelphia model were married.

Two years later, on Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.

The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.

McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."

McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.


He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince" and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.

There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.

"The broadcast was beamed to American servicemen in South Vietnam as a part of a propaganda series attempting to counter charges by U.S. Defense Secretary Melvin Laird that American prisoners are being mistreated in North Vietnam."

McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.



1,139 posted on 03/23/2006 1:51:08 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: archy


Your link goes nowhere for me.

Archy, a fellow POW was his national campaign manager.

McCain's POW time is not a topic to slam.
He's told everything he did.

How many hours have you been held captive by enemy soldiers?

I think everything McCain has done as a senator and congressman are OPEN for debate, slams and attacks, but NOT his POW years.

That sux big time and it reflects horribly on the poster.



1,150 posted on 03/23/2006 2:03:26 PM PST by onyx (BUSH/CHENEY '08 --- by coup if necessary)
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To: archy
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."

...before any Navy military member went to Vietnam, we were first sent to SEER (survival, evasion, escape and resistance) training run by the Marine Corps. There, I witnessed full Navy captains and commanders (pilots) weep and break (enlisted sailors such as I were treated better); so it does not surprise me that POWs did also, and, as I understand, EVERY one of our Vietnam POWs at the Hanoi Hilton did sign untrue statements drafted by our NVA enemy at the time. Now, I suppose you're going to tell me, that you would have NEVER signed or bartered for better treatment while in the hands of the enemy but I would love to see you make such a statement when you're a captive for a couple of years and subjected to extremely harsh treatment.

1,262 posted on 03/24/2006 8:43:28 AM PST by meandog (Mohammad is the devil!)
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