[AnnoyedOne]

Theories are not proven. LAWS are proven.

Neither are ever proven, and laws get superceded by more inclusive laws.

really? Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics, for instance. Originating with "An object at rest will tend to stay at rest, and an object in motion will continue to remain in motion, in a straight line, until acted upon by an outside force".. it has been added to and expanded, but that basic concept has NEVER been superceded. More inclusive means something was added to it.. but not that the original remains.. and remains factual. (I say factual since some here get all worked up about morality if I use the word "true". I wonder how they ever managed to take an examination where they had to give true or false answers.)

[js1138]

Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics, for instance.

Would that be Newton's First Law of Thermodynamics, or his Second?

[Virginia-American]

So where's the *proof* of Newton's Laws?

[Right Wing Professor]

Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics, for instance.

Ahem. Are you sure you meant thermdynamics?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics, for instance..."

Please, tell us what *Newton* said about thermodynamics.

[Ichneumon]

[[Theories are not proven. LAWS are proven.]]

[Neither are ever proven, and laws get superceded by more inclusive laws.]

really?

Yes, really.

Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics, for instance.

*cough*

Originating with "An object at rest will tend to stay at rest, and an object in motion will continue to remain in motion, in a straight line, until acted upon by an outside force".. it has been added to and expanded, but that basic concept has NEVER been superceded.

You mean, other than the realization that due to quantum physics there's actually no such thing as "an object at rest"?

More inclusive means something was added to it.. but not that the original remains.. and remains factual.

That's nice, but even leaving aside your errors, nothing you've said here refutes the statement that was made. The fact that some laws might not (yet?) have been superceded doesn't change the fact that at times laws *do* get superceded, which demonstrates the falseness of the original claim that "LAWS are proven" -- if they were actually proven, they wouldn't need corrections and modifications.

[balrog666]

Ah yes, nice try at an only slightly veiled ad hominem attack. Someone disagrees with you therefore it must be someone from DU. I have never been there, I have heard about them quie a bit, but I somehow doubt many over at DU want any sort of mention of a possible creator in our schools. I am not even sure what DU actually stands for or where they would be located on the net, though I am sure I could find it if I were interested. I think your position on any mention of a creator in a school is probably much more in line with the liberal agenda than mine is, by far. The resistance I have met here with regards to the topic is something I would have expected among a bunch of liberals.

Actually I was pointing out that your ignorance has not gone unnoticed although I was not even the first to notice it. I was also insinuating that, from the unusual (and nonsensical) phrase you employed, you are likely a previously banned unperson, or one of their stooges, bent upon a mission of ad hominem spewing, Creationism-spamming, and general thread-disruption.

Of course, I could be wrong ... you just might be an honest liberal (gasp) engaging in some projection while sending love notes.

[gomaaa]

Take Newtons Laws of [Motion] , for instance. Originating with "An object at rest will tend to stay at rest, and an object in motion will continue to remain in motion, in a straight line, until acted upon by an outside force".. it has been added to and expanded, but that basic concept has NEVER been superceded. More inclusive means something was added to it.. but not that the original remains.. and remains factual.

Of course. That's how the more succesful sceintific theories tend to work, evolution included. The concept of puncuated equilibrium extended Darwin's original idea, but did not alter the basic concepts at work.

[VadeRetro]

Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics, for instance.

Or Boltzmann's Theory of Relativity.

[b_sharp]

"Take Newtons Laws of Thermodynamics"

Newton's Laws of Thermodynamics???

Newton's Laws of Thermodynamics???