I vote for the life that didn't have the choice to screw around and get knocked up as having more weight.
He's a phony and should be ignored.
Please "BARF ALERT" these articles!!
Oh, yes there is, "pastor" Villines!
This guy tries his best to build straw-man arguments by attributing moral equivalences to unrelated issues.
He should spend more time studying his Bible instead of indulging in those superfluous "theological" arguments stuffed in his head from his seminary.
This man seems to be lost- intellectually and spiritually.
C. Joshua Villines = nickname for 1940s Harley Big Twin
Moral relativism, the kind we see when comparing the execution of murderers with abortion.
Does loving your enemy mean not punishing him? No, for loving myself does not mean that I ought not to subject myself to punishment--even to death. If you had committed a murder, the right Christian thing to do would be to give yourself up to the police and be hanged. It is, therefore, in my opinion, perfectly right for a Christian judge to sentence a man to death or a Christian soldier to kill an enemy. I have always thought so, ever since I became a Christian, and long before the war, and I still think so now that we are at peace. It is no good quoting 'Thou shalt not kill.' There are two Greek words: the ordinary word to kill and the word to murder. And when Christ quotes the commandment He uses the murder one in all three accounts, Matthew, Mark, and Luke. And I am told there is the same distintion in Hebrew. All killing is not murder any more than all sexual intercource is adultery.
--C.S. Lewis, 'Mere Christianity'
---"An ordained United Church of Christ pastor"---
I think you could have just printed this part and everyone would have already known his politics and real motivation.
Maybe it should be:
C. Joshua Villain
I was trolling DU to see their reaction to Bush's speech. Yeah typical vile as you might imagine. However I noticed a thread on DU entirely dedicated to your comment on this thread. Congrats your famous lol
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=709083&mesg_id=709083
That explains volumes. If this guy is a Christian, then I'm a Chinese astronaut!
He should demand a full refund from from his educators; they have left him morally bankrupt. Christianity is the single most consistent thing you will ever find.
....as for convenience, that is when one terminates a life so that you may drive a better car, or have steak instead of chicken this evening.
This man is not a Christian; he is a socialist.
Incredibly arrogant guy, this writer. I can't even believe this crap:
After spending time in women's health clinics, I have come to realize that the "most vulnerable and helpless" who need our active protection are the women and couples who are faced with the agonizingly difficult decision to terminate a pregnancy.
I guess that's what "complex theological arguments" will do you, turn you into a total dumbass.
Like the concept or act of removing the unborn from the womb and throwing them away even existed back then. This sounds like Clinton-speak to me.
That said, I may be mistaken but I think there's a commandment that deals with murder. As a "pastor" he ought to be familiar with it.
Why yes He does, according to the Bible. There are many instances of God telling the Israelites to make war against various nations. He even tells them to wipe some completely off the face of the earth.
"How else could we spend millions of dollars to oppose abortion --- despite no clear biblical argument for or against it..."
How about the sixth commandment --- "Thou shalt not murder."
How about the numerous nations -- including Israel, that God punished with war, even to utter destruction, for sacrificing their children to Molech.
Lev 20:2 Moreover, you shall say to the Israelites, Any one of the Israelites or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech [the fire god worshiped with human sacrifices] shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. Lev 20:3 I also will set My face against that man [opposing him, withdrawing My protection from him, and excluding him from My covenant] and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given of his children to Molech, defiling My sanctuary and profaning My holy name. Lev 20:4 And if the people of the land do at all hide their eyes from the man when he gives one of his children [as a burnt offering] to Molech [the fire god] and they overlook it or neglect to take legal action to punish him, winking at his sin, and do not kill him [as My law requires], Lev 20:5 Then I will set My face against that man and against his family and will cut him off from among their people, him and all who follow him to [unfaithfulness to Me, and thus] play the harlot after Molech.
I challenge "Rev." Villines to pick a Bible up and read it sometime. Either his eyes will really be opened or he'll start blathering something about a god of love could not really do the things in the Bible. I hope he and those who think like him are not expecting the gods they make up in their minds to save them. They'll be disappointed.
The reason they don't see the truth is because they are blind to it. No matter how many times the Bible says it, they'll still refuse to believe it. Until the Holy Spirit opens their eyes, they just won't see.
a peek at any sonogram will clear up the question in a moment.
in the absence of an image, one need only give honest consideration to the concept of murder, and just what, if any, class of human being is "life unworthy of life." again, the resolution will come to the honest in very short order.
defense of abortion is insanity.
Like there is for baby names there must be a book of names for liberal pressure/advocacy groups to choose from. Jeez, you can see 'em comming just by their name(s).
There ought to be a rule to put a (L) or (C) after these so called "public interest" groups, just like there is for elected officials (R) or (D).
Come to think of it, we don't need the L or C. If it is C, the media slips in a little reference to "right wing". If it is L, they say nothing.