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To: eeevil conservative
David Duke, former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan (like Robert Byrd of West Virginia) and of the National Association for the Advancement of White People,described himself as a "radicalist." In the late 80s duke was a force that could not be ignored.

Duke was no crackpot. At his peak he was an attractive figure and was one of the more effective spokesman for the radical right with a skill unmatched by any other extremeist of the right or left.

Duke was opposed to affirmative action, busing, and set-asides for hires and promotion, he was opposed to open borders, he was opposed to the welfare-state, defended traditional values, higher taxes, deficit spending, and he was opposed to big government getting bigger. He also advocated the advancement of the white race, his downfall.

Duke was no Aryan Nazi but he once wore a Nazi-style uniform to protest the speaking at Louisiana State University by the late William Kuntzler, a radical far left attorney who supported the communist line in America. Duke's father was fighting in Vietnam at the time and Duke protested Kuntzlers being able to speak in defense of the communist position and against the war in Vietnam.

Duke's greatest sin was that he openly favored the white race just like Jesse Jackson openly favored the black race.
Duke declared that he "Wanted to protect white Christian values in a non-violent way."

Ironically when Duke was elected to the Louisiana State Legislature in 1989 he did nothing to introduce legislation that would favor whites. On the contrary he used his term in office as a platform to run for the U. S. Senate.

He came close. The highest officials of both parties from President Bush and former President Reagan put their prestige on the line to oppose Duke. Opposition was all based on the claim that Duke was a racist. This accusation was even made by some of the most prominent black racists in and out of government. Of course many black racists' were elected to office that same year.

Duke will, rightly or wrongly, probably never outlive the racist taint attached to him. However it was noteworthy at the time that few of his opponents ever debated the issues with him. He was a suave and articulate debater and would have ate their lunch.

It is probably unnecessary to point out that most of Duke's political positions are now the stated positions of most Americans.
33 posted on 03/20/2006 7:02:50 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: R.W.Ratikal

oh, so he is a brilliant racist?

I don't give this man any more legitimacy than I do Puff Daddy...

after all- Hitler liked dogs, so do I...doesn't make me say...hmmmm maybe Hitler wasn't so bad....


35 posted on 03/20/2006 7:08:19 AM PST by eeevil conservative (the GREATONE THINKS I'M GREAT! AND HE AGREES WITH WHATEVER I SAY!)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
What do you mean the "accusation" that he's a racist?

He is a racist, point-blank.

That's like referring to the "accusation" that George Habash is a terrorist.

He is one.

No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

38 posted on 03/20/2006 7:12:59 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: R.W.Ratikal; veronica
It is probably unnecessary to point out that most of Duke's political positions are now the stated positions of most Americans.

Right, the stated opinions of most Americans. The ones who hang at white supremecist and jihadist sites.

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Interview With Syrian TV, November 21, 2005

Interviewer: "How do you read the ongoing U.S.-led escalation against Syria within the context of re-mapping the Middle East?"

David Duke: "Well, you must understand that the chief architects of the war were Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearl, Daniel Feith, Mr. Wurmser, Elliot Abrams, in the United States. They were the architects of this war. Mr. Pearl, as well as Mr. Wurmser and Feith, wrote a paper called 'A Clean Break: Securing the Realm,' a paper for Israel, for Benjamin Netanyahu. That paper said that the way to Damascus was through Baghdad. I believe that this is part of the ongoing Zionist effort, in their control of American foreign policy, to dominate the entire Middle East, and I believe, dominate the world. I think America is occupied in many ways the way the Golan Heights is occupied, the way the West Bank of Palestine is occupied."

[...]

Interviewer: "Dr. Duke, what impact has the worsening situation of the occupying forces in Iraq and the daily shipment of body-bags of U.S. and allied soldiers to the U.S.A. and elsewhere, on Bush's ability to plunge into another quagmire?"

Duke: "This war is a disaster for the United States, and I think that this has to put pause in some of the Zionist neo-cons about going into a new war. But the one wild card is that these neo-cons are crazy. They are insane people. They are Jewish fanatics, extremists, they are not normal people."

[...]

"The people who are pushing Jewish supremacism, Zionism - they are absolute evil and they are crazy. All they know is more power, and so there is a real danger, I should say, for Syria, and a danger for Iran at this point."

[...]

Interviewer: "How different is the Syria that you have [now] seen for the first time from that portrayed by U.S. and other Western media outlets?"

Duke: "I have defended Syria for a long time, so I was admiring Syria, I have admired your president very much. I hope at some point to be able to meet him and shake his hand. I think he is the greatest man in a very difficult period, and especially with what's going on right now, in terms of Lebanon and its relations with Syria. But absolutely, even from my perspective, and it shows you how the Zionist media around the world controls and affects all of us. Even those of us who are aware of it - it's subtly affecting."

Interviewer: "How badly, can you tell our viewers, is the policy making process hijacked by those neo-cons?"

Duke: "Well, as a patriotic American - and I come here not as a Syrian partisan, but as an American patriot - it's more shocking for me than it should be for you, because our sons and daughters are being killed in Iraq, are being wounded, innocent Iraqis have died, America is being hurt, and yet we have this policy which is only for Israel. This war is completely about Israel, and I would like to suggest to people in the Middle East... Sometimes I believe that the Zionists run a mystification on us. I find, with some of the leftists around the world who say this is a war for oil or this is an American imperialist war - No, this is a case of the Zionists using America to fight their war with our blood and our money."

[...]

Interviewer: "Now, Dr. Duke, is there room for other than the Jewish extremist supremacists to actively engage in the changing of this pro-Zionist hegemony in the U.S., and how?"

Duke: "Well, first off, I think we have to understand that there are certainly some Jews who oppose the Zionists. There is no question about that. But it also must be understood that every major Jewish organization in the United States, including the Council of Presidents of Jewish Organizations, supports this Iraq war. The largest and most powerful lobby in the United States government is the Israel lobby. Now as an American citizen, I find it pretty strange that a foreign country would have the most powerful lobby in our government. So I think... My book is dedicated to Israel Shahak, who is in fact a Jewish person. I don't consider myself antisemitic. But I am aware of the fact that I think more Jews need to stand up against the extremist dominance within their faith, within their nation. And until that happens, we cannot continue that road. But even more importantly, we - not only in America and Europe, but also in the Middle East - we must stand up and start telling the truth. If we don't talk about some of the realities of this conflict... You know, Israel is really an apartheid state in many ways. And Israel is a state... that we wouldn't tolerate actions of the American people. The New York Times is all against... It's all for intermarriage in the United States of America. But The New York Times supports Israel, where a marriage of Jewish person and a non-Jew is illegal, where a Jew who is a member of the Cohanim, which is the elite element of the Jewish tradition - they cannot even marry a Jewish person, a person who is a full-fledged Jew, of the Jewish faith, who has one drop of [non-]Jewish blood. I mean, these people... Israel makes the Nazi state look very moderate in terms of its views."

Interviewer: "How have you been treated by American media since you have been taken this stance?"

Duke: "Very bad. I would say that I'm treated about as bad as Saddam Hussein."

[...]

"The number one problem, political, economic, and social, on this planet now is what we call Zionism and more specifically, Jewish supremacism. These radical, extremist Jewish elements such as Ariel Sharon, such as the neo-cons in Washington, believe this strange [idea] that they have a right to control the world - not just Palestine, not just Syria, Iraq, and Iran and the rest of the Middle East, but also London, New York, and Toronto. All over the world you see the same pattern of control over the media, the same pattern of influence."

[...]

Interviewer: "You've mentioned London. London's mayor, Ken Livingstone, whom I suppose that you know or have heard of..."

Duke: "Yeah, I admire him..."

Interviewer: "...has actually described Sharon as a war criminal, and said Sharon should be tried at The Hague."

Duke: "Of course, if anyone should be tried for war crimes, it's Ariel Sharon. The idea that the president of my country sits down and breaks bread and shares wine with Ariel Sharon, to me is amazing. I mean..."

Interviewer: "And he described him... Bush described him as a man of peace."

Duke: "Exactly. I mean, Bush is totally... Bush is not a very smart man, and he is totally under the thumb of the Jewish supremacists. The president of Canada said it very well. He said that Bush is like a puppet. He knows what he has to say to get the support of the media, and political support. I think right now, they dangled him, they created... The Zionists created the lies of this war. In fact, Steven Cohen was the CIA person who manufactured the evidence... Even Israel's CIA, even Israel's Mossad actually put forward evidence to the United States about weapons of mass destruction. Israel itself basically [knows] that they lied, they know Bush knows that he lied, so now they say to Bush: OK, either you continue on with this program, with securing the realm, with this war, either you continue on with this or we will have you impeached."

[...]

"It's interesting. This is something the Arab community also is not aware of. The neo-cons, the people who founded this were actually Trotskyite communists originally. This is not well known..."

Interviewer: "Trotskyites?"

Duke: "Trotskyites. Yes, exactly. Russia has worked to free itself from the Jewish supremacist Bolshevists."

[...]

Interviewer: "On last week's talk show, a senior Anglican Syro-Lebanese clergyman cited on this show that there is a biblical background to what the world in general, and the Middle East in particular, is witnessing nowadays. What is your input on that? He was talking about the Old Testament and the process through which Jesus Christ was tried by the Jews and the way now they are treating [figures] like the Syrian leaders."

Duke: "I may not be the most popular person for saying what I think needs to be said, but many people in the Middle East distinguish between Zionism and Judaism. As you know from reading my book, the evidence is overwhelming: Judaism at its core - not all Jews, but Judaism at its core - is a racist religion, a supremacist religion, and non-Jews are considered not even of human caliber. It's not all of the Jews, but it is certainly something that is strong in it."

Rally in Support of Bashar

al-Assad, Syrian TV, November 24, 2005

David Duke: "I come from the peace-loving people in America to the peace-loving people of Syria."

Crowd cheers.

Interpreter: "If you please, no shouting."

Interpreter: "I have come from the peace-loving American people to the peace-loving Syrian people."

Duke: "I come from the peace-loving people of America to your great peace-loving president of Syria."

Interpreter: "I have come from the peace-loving American people to your peace-loving Syrian president."

Crowd: "Our soul and our blood we will sacrifice for you, oh Bashar!

"Our soul and our blood we will sacrifice for you, oh Bashar!

"Our soul and our blood we will sacrifice for you, oh Bashar!"

Duke: "It is only in America and around the world, it is only the Zionists who want war rather than peace."

Interpreter: "All over the world... In America, and all over the world, it is only the Zionists who want war instead of peace."

Duke: "It hurts my heart to tell you that part of my country is occupied by Zionists, just as part of your country, the Golan Heights, is occupied by Zionists."

Interpreter: "It saddens me and it hurts my heart to tell you that parts of my country are occupied, just as parts of your country, namely the occupied Golan, are occupied by the Zionists."

Duke: "The Zionists occupy most of the American media and now control much of American government."

Interpreter: "The Zionists control most of the media outlets, and they also control the American government."

Duke: "It is not just the West Bank of Palestine, it is not just the Golan Heights that are occupied by the Zionists, but Washington D.C., and New York, and London, and many other capitals in the world."

Interpreter: "It is not just the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights that are occupied by the Zionists. Washington D.C., New York, London, and other cities and capitals around the world are occupied by the Zionists."

Duke: "Your fight for freedom is the same as our fight for freedom."

Interpreter: "Just as the Europeans are fighting for freedom, the Arabs are fighting for freedom."

Duke: "I bring you a message from many Americans, from many people in Britain, and around the Western world. We say in unison: No war for Israel."

Interpreter: "I have brought you a message from most of the Western world, from America, from Britain. The message is: No to war, no to Israel."

Duke: "No war for Israel!"

Crowd chants along with Duke.

Duke: "No war for Israel, no war for Israel, no war for Israel, no war for Israel!"

Interpreter: "No to a war for the sake of Israel... No to a war for the sake of Israel... No to a war for the sake of Israel..."


[1] Arabic News, November 24, 2005.

[2] Arabic News, November 22, 2005.


48 posted on 03/20/2006 7:40:03 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Duke was no crackpot.

OK, we're not gonna see eye to eye on this one.

At his peak he was an attractive figure

To you, maybe, and to his fifteen followers (with thirty-two teeth between 'em). I always figured that a telegenic jerk wasn't anything special cause he was telegenic.

and was one of the more effective spokesman for the radical right with a skill unmatched by any other extremeist of the right or left.

Which is why he went on to great success as... what did he succeed at? Nothing yet. He didn't even succeed at tax evasion, he went to jail.

Duke was no Aryan Nazi but he once wore a Nazi-style uniform to protest the speaking at Louisiana State University by the late William Kuntzler, a radical far left attorney who supported the communist line in America. Duke's father was fighting in Vietnam at the time and Duke protested Kuntzlers being able to speak in defense of the communist position and against the war in Vietnam.

Duke's father was a civilian worker, not a soldier. It's "Kunstler" and Duke was at the time recruiting for the American Nazi Party. He later tried the Klan, and he tried running for office as a Republican (which he liked best, as he got Federal funds, which he skimmed).

"Wanted to protect white Christian values..."

Last time I looked, there was no race test for Christian values. With Duke, "white" has always come before everything.

Duke will, rightly or wrongly, probably never outlive the racist taint attached to him.

Well, you know, dressing up in white hoods and/or swastikas gives folks an impression, don't it? At least Sheets Byrd, Grand Kleagle and Exalted Octupus that he was (whatever the devil that is), had the good sense not to pose for the media in his Klan regalia.

David Duke probably is the nearest thing that the "radical right" as you call it had to a genius. But then, in the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king. In the kingdom of idiots a half-wit can rule.

That there are black racists does not excuse Duke. I suppose people may legitimately differ on whether he is more repulsive than they, or as repulsive, but I can't work the equation in any way that makes Duke look good.

But then, I don't believe that someone's automatically better or worse because of the continent most of his ancestry came from. I have this weird notion that you have to take individuals as indiiduals.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

80 posted on 03/20/2006 12:18:45 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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