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Minutemen Protest In Costa Mesa (pics) ACLU Meeting to Help Illegals
3/17/06

Posted on 03/17/2006 10:24:42 PM PST by Ladycalif

MIRNA BURCIAGA, OWNER OF EL CHANACO RESTAURANT, located at 19th St. and Maple St. in Costa Mesa, is against Mayor Mansoor's plan to have the Costa Mesa Police Dept. assist U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to arrest criminal illegal aliens.

MIRNA BURCIAGA is also a racial supremacist member/supporter of La Raza/Mecha/Maldef/La Voz


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: border; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen
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To: Riverman94610
The whole argument of racism is NOT a "total scam" as you put it...to say racism does not exist on the part of Caucasians? Totally naive on your part.

You accidentally on purpose took my statement out of context, as I was specifically citing that Latinos and Hispanics are not a race by any scientific measure. The disdain you witness against them would truthfully have to be considered "bigotry" or "prejudice", as racism only applies to races.

Language is an odd thing at times. If Bat Masterson was a shootist and Yo Yo Ma is a cellist, isn't Jeff Gordon a racist?

241 posted on 03/20/2006 8:20:24 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: BorderRaven

I have a strong hunch that you've never arrested an illegal alien, you've never stopped anyone from being hired, and you've mostly done absolutely nothing save shoot your mouth off since joining FR in the last 24 hours.

The only question I have is: Are you a garden variety troll or a retread troll?


242 posted on 03/20/2006 8:25:47 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: BorderRaven
The charge of "false arrest" is a scare tactic, to make you rethink your actions, so they can avoid their job, but if your are making a lawful arrest, then false arrest won't stick.

And what you described would be false arrest when someone decided to set you up.

I've had the misfortune of having to put the cuffs on people who said "CITZEN'S ARREST!" without making sure that they were 100% correct, because the law doesn't give a damn as to whether you THOUGHT you could make an arrest.

243 posted on 03/20/2006 8:58:46 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Arrest of Illegal Aliens by State and Local Officers

Subsection 1324(c) of Title 8 specifically authorizes state and local officers "whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws" to make arrests for violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324. There is also a general federal statute which authorizes certain local officials to make arrests for violations of federal statutes, 18 U.S.C. § 3041. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has held that 18 U.S.C. § 3041 authorizes those local officials to issue process for the arrest, to be executed by law enforcement officers. See United States v. Bowdach, 561 F.2d 1160, 1168 (5th Cir. 1977).

Rule 4(a)(1) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure provides that an arrest warrant "shall be executed by a marshal or by some other officer authorized by law." The phrase, "some other officer," includes state and local officers. Bowdach, supra.

Section 439 of the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 added a new 8 U.S.C. § 1252c which provides that notwithstanding any other provision of law, to the extent permitted by relevant State and local law, State and local law enforcement officials are authorized to arrest and detain an individual who (1) is an alien illegally present in the United States; and (2) has previously been convicted of a felony in the United States and deported and left the United States after such conviction, but only after the State or local law enforcement officials obtain appropriate confirmation from the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the status of such individual and only for such period of time as may be required for the Service to take the individual into federal custody for purposes of deporting or removing the alien from the United States.

In the absence of a specific federal statute, the validity of an arrest without a warrant for violation of federal law by local peace officers is to be determined by reference to local law. See Miller v. United States, 357 U.S. 301, 305 (1958); United States v. Di Re, 332 U.S. 581, 589 (1948).

In approving a state trooper's arrest of persons who appeared to be illegal aliens, the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit held, simply, as follows: "A state trooper has general investigative authority to inquire into possible immigration violations." See United States v. Salinas-Calderon, 728 F.2d 1298, 1301, n. 3 (10th Cir. 1984).

The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit held, in Gonzales v. City of Peoria, 722 F.2d 468 (9th Cir. 1983), that the structure of the Immigration and Nationality Act does not evidence an intent to preclude local enforcement of the act's criminal provisions. Id. at 474. Based on the pertinent legislative history, the court of appeals rejected the argument that since 8 U.S.C. § 1324(c) specifically authorizes local officers to make arrests for violations of 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a), and 8 U.S.C. §§ 1325(a) and 1326 contain no comparable provision, Congress must have intended that local officers be precluded from making arrests for violations of 8 U.S.C. §§ 1325(a) and 1326. Id. at 475. The decision warns, however, that the first violation of 8 U.S.C. § 1325(a) is a misdemeanor, and that if applicable state law authorizes law enforcement officers to arrest for misdemeanors only if committed in their presence, they would not be authorized to arrest aliens for illegal entry (unless the officers should happen to know that the alien had previously been convicted of illegal entry) unless they saw him/her cross the border.

The disappointing aspect of Gonzales is the statement that an alien's "inability to produce documentation does not in itself provide probable cause (to arrest)." See Gonzales v. City of Peoria, supra, at 16. Pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1304(e), aliens are issued registration cards and must carry such cards with them at all times. Aliens who gain entry without the requisite inspection, and who therefore are not issued such cards, violate 8 U.S.C. § 1325. Consequently, a law enforcement officer confronting an alien who is unable to produce documentation arguably has probable cause to believe that a violation of 8 U.S.C. § 1304(e) (failure to possess documents or 8 U.S.C. § 1325(a) (entry without inspection) has occurred. (If the alien is undocumented and has been in the United States for longer than 30 days, he or she has also violated 8 U.S.C. § 1306(a)).


244 posted on 03/20/2006 9:16:29 PM PST by BorderRaven
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To: Czar
Tell me what I already know.

But there are problems. We are absorbing large number of migrants from other states who tend not to assimilate. Lotsa yankees coming in.

245 posted on 03/21/2006 4:06:08 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Pelham

When will you begin the round-ups and mass deportations?


246 posted on 03/21/2006 4:08:51 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: BorderRaven
None of that points to a citizen's arrest. And refusing to provide you with proof of legal residency does not give you authority to make such an arrest.

To make an citizen's arrest for illegal immigration requires that one witness said act of illegal immigration, because illegal immigration is a misdemeanor.

247 posted on 03/21/2006 4:52:53 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: Melas; BorderRaven
I have a strong hunch that you've never arrested an illegal alien

I know for a fact that BorderRaven has never arrested an illegal alien. It it had, it would have been arrested.

I challenged it to put its theory to the test, but it ran away from the thread.

The telling actions of a coward.

248 posted on 03/21/2006 7:48:57 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Ben Ficklin
I know youd prefer mexicans to your fellow countrymen but whatcha gonna do? Its warm down there.
249 posted on 03/21/2006 2:40:58 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom

Actually I prefer Texans.


250 posted on 03/21/2006 3:42:16 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

I guess somebody's got to.


251 posted on 03/21/2006 3:47:00 PM PST by mthom
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To: mthom

Judging from the number of out-of-staters who have moved in over the last twenty years plus those that will move there in the next twenty years, there must be more than a few "Somebody's got to"s.


252 posted on 03/21/2006 4:14:42 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Relax, that was a joke anyway. Texas is a great state and Texans are great people.


253 posted on 03/21/2006 4:19:06 PM PST by mthom
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To: Ben Ficklin
When will you begin the round-ups and mass deportations?

The day after you stop making assinine statements.

254 posted on 03/21/2006 7:34:18 PM PST by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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