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You think ANWR is dead? Well think again, people. (Senate Vote Tonight)
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Posted on 03/15/2006 1:30:16 PM PST by Pukin Dog

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To: thackney

"Senate Resources Chairman Pete Domenici commented before the vote that 10 years and 3 months ago Congress voted to open ANWR that was vetoed by President Clinton. If that had passed ANWR would be producing today and American debt imported oil dependence would be dramatically reduced."

VERY GOOD POINT.


141 posted on 03/16/2006 8:50:54 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: American Quilter

"In addition, the oil companies are so extremely protective of the environment that if you pour a cup of cold coffee on the ground, you're gone on the next plane, no appeal or second chance. If you shoot a rabid fox, ditto. The drill area is the size of a small parking lot, and the entire operation has considerably less impact on the environment than a crowd of tree-huggers walking all over the forest every weekend."

Let's be more exact ...
Drilling in ANWR has less environmental impact than the SanFransisco-hippy-techno-funk-eco-freak "Burning Man" yearly shindig out in the Nevada desert.


142 posted on 03/16/2006 8:53:21 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pukin Dog
It's absolulely outrageous that we are not drilling up there yet!!!

'Drill it' like a CINEMAX xxx-rated movie!

143 posted on 03/16/2006 8:56:06 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: Cboldt

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that extending them through 2016 would cost $1.5 trillion — 10 times Bush's proposed Medicare and Medicaid cuts."

Absolutely nuts... CBO doesnt do dynamic scoring so they pretend tax cuts that pay for themselves cost and arm and a leg, and *never* count the cost of higher taxes on the economy.

Not making the tax cuts permanent is equal to massive tax increases, and anyone allowing tax increases is nuts.


144 posted on 03/16/2006 9:01:27 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Marine_Uncle

"Now if my math is correct using your 10 billion barrels, as you can see, the total amount of oil that could be extracted from those targeted drilling plateforms is not that much oil based on the US daily needs."

That's a silly statement, given the very numbers you use (and I agree with) ... by your own calculation that 10 billion barrels ($600 billion worth of oil) in ANWR is more than the ENTIRE oil consumption for a whole year ... this is $600 billion worth of oil! 10 billion barrels could reduce our oil imports by 10% for two decades!
We produce 5 million barrels a day .. this could boost our US oil production by 30%, for 2 decades.

"10 billion barrels of crude oil is a drop in the bucket as to what the US needs dictate."

'drop in a bucket' implies a small fraction under 1% ... this 10 billion barrels is more than what US consumes in a year, so 15 months of supply... or 12% of our entire needs for the next decade. Not a drop in the bucket, but a rather substantial slice of the pie.

Any way you slice it, it is a HUGE boon to our energy trade balance and energy production.


145 posted on 03/16/2006 9:08:14 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: WOSG

We would get about one million barrels a day from ANWR (about the same as what we import from Saudi Arabia every day). DRILL IT ALREADY!!! geeeeez


146 posted on 03/16/2006 9:13:28 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: WOSG
I am tired. I have been on for some fifteen hours, past my bed time.
My original statement was based on web sites that said, and other Freeper made comment on, that one estimate was that ANWR could contain a total of 10 billion barrels total.
From a web site using 2004 info, I found that the US dailey consumption in oil was 20 million gallons. I multiplied that by 360 days and came up with 7 billion some barrels.
So if one look at the total 10 billion estimate over according to some web sites, e.g. USGS site, etc., was the total capacity of ANWR. AND. This oil would be extracted over between 7 to 10 years based on the web site verbage, that in essence we would not bolster our supply by any signifcant amount.
Daily US consumption = 20 million
1 Year US consumption = 7 billion
Life of ANWR wells 10 billion total, with say a rough average at full production of 1 billion per year.
So if you read above carefully you will see what I based my original statements on.
Afterward Freeper thakney corrected my old data with what he knows is current. Some 36 billion barrels for ANWR 2002 Site.
He added that a lot more would once full production be able to be pumped on a yearly basis then my old data provided. I conceed graciously and thank him for his correctlions.
I also in each replie stated no matter what the numbers where we MUST drill and even convince congress that other areas of potential Alaskan soil with high probability areas should be drilled. So I would have assumed at that point it was a dead issue. But I respect your input so felt obligated to respond. I gotta hit the sack, my eye balls are shot. Do have a pleasant upcoming day.
147 posted on 03/16/2006 9:47:58 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle

I agree with your #s just not the term "drop in bucket"
It's a BIG 'drop'! ... G'Nite!


148 posted on 03/16/2006 9:54:21 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Although the President supports ANWR, he has not been vocal enough about it. Maybe a national address to the country on the importance of drilling ANWR, and/or repeated pushes for it publicly as he travels the country. This is so close that a big Presidential public push is needed!!!

Mr. President, let's spend some political capital on ANWR!!

149 posted on 03/16/2006 11:06:16 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader
"Mr. President, let's spend some political capital on ANWR!!"
Fully agree. This POTUS does not have to worry about re-election. He has absolutely nothing to loose. But it cannot just be him. He needs the hill to come out of their ant hills and admit the gig is up. We must use all resources at our disposal to work toward energy independence.
But here is a though I have not brought up before and I believe has gone unnoticed on these oil related posts.
No environmental whackos to have to deal with. Just potential huge profits to be made under the right situations.
And I would not be surprised in the lest if many on the hill against local drilling, as well as fence sitters have this in mind. So no one wants to take the chance of being an outcast for the fight for US interior drilling and exploration. In short, get cheap Arabian crude with minimal investments.
150 posted on 03/17/2006 10:40:43 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Pukin Dog
There aint a critter worth spit that won't eventually adjust to man's work...and figure work arounds..

Heck many of them if not most have benefited from mankind's interaction with their God's environment...

151 posted on 03/21/2006 1:37:26 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: American Quilter

Just how are the rabid fox dealt with, anyway, if not shot?


152 posted on 03/23/2006 3:01:46 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru
Just how are the rabid fox dealt with, anyway, if not shot?

Jonah Goldberg didn't say. Maybe you're just supposed to flap your hands at them and say, "Shoo!" Or maybe you're supposed to let them attack you, since only conservatives would work on an evil project like an oil-drilling operation, and if you're a conservative you deserve to be infected with rabies.

153 posted on 03/24/2006 12:01:24 PM PST by American Quilter
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