Posted on 03/13/2006 10:10:03 AM PST by SirLinksalot
"Creationism is a myth. And you are on record as saying YOUR version of Creationism is The Truth."
I know that God exists. I have seen Him answer prayers in an unbelievable way. I have seen the power that Jesus Christ has to transform lives from evil to good.
I believe the record of events He has left for us in the Scriptures. It is not my version, it is God's version.
I hope you will come to know Him also.
"Evolution has nothing to do with the foundation of civilization. It is simply a scientific theory."
Evolution is the way in which the secular State addresses the question, "Where did we come from?"
Ahh, the morally superior "I am saved and I hope someday you can join me up on this platform" condenscension.
And I will have you know that I am a very devout Christian.
I am just not so arrogant as to see it as anything other than my belief. I believe it is The Truth. But it is my belief.
Lysenko himself was an evolutionist.
The Soviets had many people executed. I'm sure many were evolutionists. The Soviet time period went on well before and after Stalin or Lysenko as well.
But your revisionist history is not appropriate. The Soviets as well as every Marxist/communist regime were evolutionist.
Generally when you get to the level you are at of denying basic known history it means you've more than just objective interest in science going on.
I can understand how a person with little or no knowledge of the theory, and who's life is completely absorbed by religion might think evolution is some sort of creation myth because that is the only frame of reference from which he or she can make observations. However, not all frames of reference are equally valid.
See post 4.
Russia's history of abuse of science and outlawing religions in, among other things, the context of this abuse, makes it understandable why people in Russia might be leery.
"Ahh, the morally superior "I am saved and I hope someday you can join me up on this platform" condenscension."
No condenscention.
"And I will have you know that I am a very devout Christian."
I am interested to know that means to you?
"I am just not so arrogant as to see it as anything other than my belief."
Do you believe Jesus literally rose from the dead?
One can reamain ignorant, even when the historical evidence is within memory of some of the participants.
Lysekno Denier
As long as we sequster my response away from the topic of the thread -- Yes. But that is my belief.
"As long as we sequster my response away from the topic of the thread -- Yes. But that is my belief."
Why do you believe that he rose from the dead?
This is a standard non-sequituer CRIDer tactic. The illogic goes something like: Communists used TToE to prove God doesn't exist. You believe in TToR. Therefore, you don't believe God exists and are a Communist.
A child of 12 can see through it, but they run it at LEAST once per thread.
We can take religious musings to another thread or FReepmail me.
It has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Another CRIDer technique: Make a false statement, get busted for it, then make it on another thread.
I am still waiting for talldink to answer my question about what Evos are "scientifically illiterate." (avoiding tough questions is another one).
Educators are supposedly so dedicated to promoting self-esteem in children. Which account of origins provides more of a feeling of worth...hearing you are an accidental product of billions of years that culminated in a monkey-person, or hearing that God created you out of special love for humanity? I know which world view I'd rather have my children be taught. I firmly believe the animal behavior of so many in our society, both young and old, is due to the very fact that they were told they are animals, and so they act like it. Gangs are a perfect result of Darwin's "survival of the fittest."
Say WHAT??? I think you have this confused with DU. "Promoting self-esteem" is one of the worst things that teachers could possible teach.
Educators should be dedicated to EDUCATING.
These David Irving wannabes have been around for some time.
A whole new field of endeavor.
Don't like where scientific theories go? Well, just change them to get the result you want. No big deal. Its only science.
And its for the children.
This thread is too much. It seems in reality the Russian communists were Bible believing 6 day creationists.
Intellectual honesty -- is that too much to ask? Here is a quote from Lysenko:
Darwin investigated the numerous facts obtained by naturalists in living nature and analysed them through the prism of practical experience. Agricultural practice served Darwin as the material basis for the elaboration of his theory of Evolution, which explained the natural causation of the adaptation we see in the structure of the organic world. That was a great advance in the knowledge of living nature.
In Engels' opinion, three great discoveries enabled man's knowledge of the inter-connection of natural processes to advance by leaps and bounds: first, the discovery of the cell; second, the discovery of the transformation of energy; third, "the proof which Darwin first developed in connected form that the stock of organic products of nature surrounding us today, including mankind, is the result of a long process of evolution from a few original unicellular germs, and that these again have arisen from protoplasm or albumen which came into existence by chemical means."
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