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Jailed for a messy yard
NorthJersey.com ^ | 03.09.06 | ALLISON PRIES

Posted on 03/09/2006 1:27:54 PM PST by Coleus

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To: DevSix
You have no right to tell others how to live on their own property.

That's where you're wrong...she moved into THAT neighborhood..with those rules...if she doesn't like it, it's up to her to move.

101 posted on 03/09/2006 4:07:07 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

I really, really feel sorry for you.


102 posted on 03/09/2006 4:13:57 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: jellybean

"I sometimes don't have time to mow"

My brother doesn't like yard work. The city sent him a letter telling him to clean it up or the city would do it for him and send him the bill. LOL...he cleaned it up, got the city off his back and put hedges all around his house. The hedges are now about 10 feet tall and you can't see his yard or the mess. That was his way of solving the problem.


103 posted on 03/09/2006 4:17:39 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: MineralMan
We are blessed that we have wonderful neighbors on our street. We know we can depend on them to watch our house when we are out of town and we do the same for them. If we see something odd at a house, we call another neighbor to see just what is going on.
104 posted on 03/09/2006 4:17:50 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: Hunble
Actually, it is rather disgusting that her local church is not helping her.

Even if she doesn't have a local church, it sounds as if she's had some bad luck that's not necessarily of her own making. A church who'd help her out might find they had a new member, and it seems as if "witnessing" in that way would be much more effective than giving someone platitudes.

105 posted on 03/09/2006 4:44:15 PM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Hunble
"Pay their property taxes, and only then do you have a say in how their personal property is maintained."

Not true at all.

City, county, and municipal ordinances dictate the standards for how property is maintained. In some cases HOA's do (home owner's associations).

Bottom line, know the prevailing laws before you buy the property; ignorance does not excuse you from abiding by them.

106 posted on 03/09/2006 4:54:46 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Coleus
how is getting fined, jailed and possibly being forced out of and losing your home and thrown onto the street called: compassion? Are you sure you don't need some help??

SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE ANYMORE. She didn't lose her home, yet. She can still sell it. Now her ex knows she needs help, the community, and nice people like yourself know...why don't you help her? In fact, why doesn't everyone on this board who have told me what a heartless soul I am get a fund together and help this woman. Yea, I didn't think so. SHE NEEDS HELP. Now, I'm sure she'll get it.

107 posted on 03/09/2006 4:59:33 PM PST by Hildy
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To: DevSix
"Tough - The idea that you think the Gov't should be in existence to make sure your property values don't decrease is utter nonsense.....and that type of mindset is exactly what had led to the size of Gov't we have now...at all levels!"

When you buy property, check all laws and ordinances pertaining to the upkeep and maintenance of your property.

You are not dismissed from following the existing laws simply because you don't agree with them.

"Just because Gov't grows / morphs itself in to a larger and larger entity does not mean all the silly laws and regulations it puts out...are right! -"

"That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed..."

Those laws were put into place by the consent of the governed...if you don't like the laws, you can work to change them, but until they are changed, you must abide by them or face whatever penalties the governed consented to as punishment for not following the laws.

108 posted on 03/09/2006 5:00:56 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Smokin' Joe - MineralMan
Thank you for your comments. If ever I am in need, I hope to God I have neighbors such as you. This is what America is all about. The visual of a 'barn raising' comes to mind. Not unlike helping a neighbor who is in need of assistance.


109 posted on 03/09/2006 5:09:30 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Those laws were put into place by the consent of the governed...if you don't like the laws, you can work to change them, but until they are changed, you must abide by them or face whatever penalties the governed consented to as punishment for not following the laws.

Please - You cannot being intellectually honest believe this BS....The reality of Gov't is the vast majority of laws passed ...the general public is not aware at all about them. Nor does the average American who is busting his as$ have the luxury of "time" to try and keep up-to-date on all the workings of busy-body government types.

Private property rights are being trashed each and every day. Simply under the concept of "what is for the common good". And that is complete BS...and is one of the leading paths for the continually eroding of this great Nation.

Again, that you think Gov't needs to continue morphing itself into a larger and larger entity in which one of its roles is to ensure property values don't decrease is utterly pathetic. Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.

Regards (and no further need to continue).

110 posted on 03/09/2006 5:17:50 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Hildy
That's where you're wrong...she moved into THAT neighborhood..with those rules...if she doesn't like it, it's up to her to move.

She did not move into that neighborhood. She BOUGHT / OWNS property! - That is the fundamental right you are missing.

Property rights are what founded this Nation. Not "neighborhood" rights....or "the common good". It was individual rights and property rights.

111 posted on 03/09/2006 5:20:25 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Hildy

SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE ANYMORE. >>>

I think the situation is that after the general contractor robbed her, that put her in a financial hole that she couldn't dig herself out. And, if she does sell the house, she won't get that much for it since it's in disrepair and where would she go? NJ is expensive, even in the inner city. I think after seeing this, some groups will volunteer to help her. I'm wondering if her ex-husband bought her out or still retains 1/2 ownership.


112 posted on 03/09/2006 5:22:41 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: Hildy

I'm not even sure you're on planet Earth!


113 posted on 03/09/2006 5:25:13 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Coleus
Moor's neighbors began complaining

I wonder how many of these "neighbors" actually offered to help out with her yard?

"The ultimate goal we're looking for is compliance," Lane said

Welcome to Amerika

114 posted on 03/09/2006 5:25:56 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hunble; Smokin' Joe
Smokin's Joe, you are an honest American and still understand what this country is all about.

That was a different America, where folks actually cared about their neighbors.

Today, most of the Amerikan sheeple care for little more than how much their 401k or their house is worth. What the fools fail to realize is that "more is less" here, since higher house values mean nothing more than a higher tax base and an avenue to become further enslaved to debt vie home equity loans. And it also means their kids and grandkids will have a tougher time buying houses since their wages aren't going up 10% a year. (But who cares about future generations anymore?)

The irony is that in the "old America", by caring about others and being a good neighbor, the materialistic benefits occurred as a result. And I'm talking real benefits here, not paper benefits such as your house going up by 20% in a year, or your Google stock doubling in value.

People today have no idea what real wealth is.

115 posted on 03/09/2006 6:12:52 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alberta's Child
I grew up in New Jersey. Me and my siblings knew how to deal with neighbors who made endless complaints to the police or town officials over petty nonsense like this.

LOL, don't be shy, please tell us what you did.

116 posted on 03/09/2006 6:56:26 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I can't -- I don't know what the statutes of limitations are on some of those things. LOL.


117 posted on 03/09/2006 7:07:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Hildy
Yes, that is the exact issue. It is ashame she has her problems, but if we allow people in suburbs to let their houses look like the house on haunted hill, then our home values go to hell and the neighborhoods turn to ghettos.

Older homes are required to maintain the revitalization of their property or eventually they will be condemned.

No neighbors helped? Is this a fat person who can't do any work on their house, but can some how get the money to eat a LOT?

Lots of issued involved here since the owner is in their forties.

118 posted on 03/09/2006 7:12:10 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Bwahahahahaha! That's good!


119 posted on 03/09/2006 7:13:48 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Hunble
We have housing codes to be maintained and if the owner can't do it, they should sell or expect their home to get condemned.

Why no neighbors helped her out seems strange.

120 posted on 03/09/2006 7:13:52 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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