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At Conservative Forum on Bush, Everybody's a Critic
washingtonpost.com ^ | Wednesday, March 8, 2006 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 03/08/2006 7:08:13 AM PST by beeler

If the ancient political wisdom is correct that a charge unanswered is a charge agreed to, the Bush White House pleaded guilty yesterday at the Cato Institute to some extraordinary allegations.

"We did ask a few members of the Bush economic team to come," explained David Boaz, the think tank's executive vice president, as he moderated a discussion between two prominent conservatives about President Bush. "We didn't get that."

Now why would the administration pass up such an invitation?

Well, it could have been because of the first speaker, former Reagan aide Bruce Bartlett. Author of the new book "Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy," Bartlett called the administration "unconscionable," "irresponsible," "vindictive" and "inept."

It might also have had something to do with speaker No. 2, conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan. Author of the forthcoming "The Conservative Soul: How We Lost It; How to Get It Back," Sullivan called Bush "reckless" and "a socialist," and accused him of betraying "almost every principle conservatism has ever stood for."

Nor was moderator Boaz a voice of moderation. He blamed Bush for "a 48 percent increase in spending in just six years," a "federalization of public schools" and "the biggest entitlement since LBJ."

True, the small-government libertarians represented by Cato have always been the odd men out of the Bush coalition. But the standing-room-only forum yesterday, where just a single questioner offered even a tepid defense of the president, underscored some deep disillusionment among conservatives over Bush's big-spending answer to Medicare and Hurricane Katrina, his vast claims of executive power, and his handling of postwar Iraq.

Bartlett, who lost his job at the free-market National Center for Policy Analysis because of his book, said that if conservatives were honest, more would join his complaint.

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To: All

Folks,

There are Democrat activists here. Anyone advocating GOP defeat in Congress so that liberal Democrats take seats is advocating advancement of the liberal Democratic party.

They are very very few and when they enshroud their posts with conservative buzzphrases like border control and lower spending they think this immunizes them from zotting.

Just keep in mind Tom DeLay won last night. The GOP will hold that seat via the power of incumbency, and make no mistake, that seat was critical to Democrat hopes of taking the House.

These few insignificant insects posting here who are DU activists or 3rd party activists (generally these two categories can be envisioned as one) are having no effect and influence policy not at all. Threads devoted to their cause are best avoided. Let them bump their own. Prefer to spend time on threads devoted to the lowering US casualties in Iraq.


121 posted on 03/08/2006 10:15:41 AM PST by Owen
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To: eskimo

The Patriot Act and No Border Security are the two issues that gripe me the most....who's at fault?

Our Constitution is threatened and our economy takes on 500,000 illegals a year.

Plus eventually some terrorists will cross the mexican/canadian border if they haven't already.

Who do we hold accountable for these horrendous issues?


122 posted on 03/08/2006 10:18:17 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: CaptSkip; raybbr; DTogo; AZ_Cowboy; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite; NRA2BFree; Spiff; Pelham; ...

ping


123 posted on 03/08/2006 10:21:10 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: kaktuskid
Libertarians believe in open borders, legalized drugs, and no military...

You've just demonstrated your lack of understanding of libertarianism.
124 posted on 03/08/2006 10:21:28 AM PST by Small-L (I'm a staunch libertarian Republican, but I refuse to vote for a RINO)
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To: MEGoody
There's socially conservative, fiscally conservative, etc. There's no one description of 'conservative minded' no matter how much you may close your eyes and wish it to be so.

You can pick at the edges and try to redefine the borders but traditional core conservative ideals such as, limited government are what most real conservatives need to be concerned about. The traditional core beliefs are being discarded in the name of political gamesmanship.

125 posted on 03/08/2006 10:25:02 AM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Owen
These few insignificant insects posting here who are DU activists or 3rd party activists (generally these two categories can be envisioned as one) are having no effect and influence policy not at all.

Then why mention them at all?
126 posted on 03/08/2006 10:27:12 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Soul Seeker
LIBERTARIANS are not conservative

Did you know that Ronald Reagan called libertarianism the "heart and soul of conservatism"?

127 posted on 03/08/2006 10:28:35 AM PST by jmc813 (Sanford/Pence in '08)
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To: A.Hun
In politics you have to go with the candidate with views the closest to you that can get elected. That's just the way it is.

No one who believes in traditional conservative ideals has to accept the GOP being infested with big government socialist political oportunists. That's rediculous.

128 posted on 03/08/2006 10:29:15 AM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Blueflag
The 'other side' offers ** N O T H I N G** to conservatives.

George W. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" has offered NOTHING to real conservatives either. Sadly, Bartlett is right.

129 posted on 03/08/2006 10:30:08 AM PST by janetgreen (Washington fiddles while America is invaded!)
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To: Halgr
Who do we hold accountable for these horrendous issues?

Those now running government, their apologists and enablers.

130 posted on 03/08/2006 10:31:16 AM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: Small-L
Blame, blame, blame, let us all chant together.

We have the best we can have for the conservative agenda, may be we can squeeze lit bit more and that is all about it. The theoretical absolute conservatism advocated by some on FR and elsewhere means total defeat at the polls.

131 posted on 03/08/2006 10:33:40 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Owen

Oh I see just because someone doesn't agree with you....you call them a democrat....

Get a life!!!


132 posted on 03/08/2006 10:36:56 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: steve-b

LOL!


133 posted on 03/08/2006 10:37:15 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: eskimo
No one who believes in traditional conservative ideals has to accept the GOP being infested with big government socialist political oportunists. That's rediculous.

No one should believe that destroying GWB will help get more conservative people elected. We must build on the steps GWB has taken, and continue to get the most conservative people we can elected.

Big government, socialist, political opportunists describes our true enemy...the Democrats. John Kerry would be an excellent example...the man GWB beat by only three percentage points.

I thank God everyday that GWB was elected instead of Al Gore or John Kerry.

134 posted on 03/08/2006 10:47:32 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
He would not have been elected without a Prescription plan, and I have parents in their eighties that benefit from it.

So you support using the police power of government to take money away from people who earned it in order to give it to people whose vote you want to buy? Sounds like Marx to me...
135 posted on 03/08/2006 10:48:57 AM PST by Small-L (I'm a staunch libertarian Republican, but I refuse to vote for a RINO)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I like CATO but take their recommendations with a pinch of salt.

How many video or audio clips are there of Republican elected officials pounding the podium for LIMITED GOVERNMENT? A clip or sound bite of that is as rare as a Bush veto.

Sullivan called Bush "reckless" and "a socialist," and accused him of betraying "almost every principle conservatism has ever stood for."

Sullivan sums it up nicely, and try as they may, the cheerleaders and RNC loyalists can't defend the indefensible.

Far better for all conservatives to show outrage at the leftist Republicans. We gain far more ground in holding Republicans accountable than we do by bashing RATs. The Harriet Miers embarrassment and eventual Sam Alito confirmation proved that point.

136 posted on 03/08/2006 10:51:15 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

My tagline rings true yet again.


137 posted on 03/08/2006 10:54:37 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: jveritas
Was he wrong about the consequences of abandoning Gaza?

About the threat posed by Hezbollah?

About the fear most Christians have in this country about their supposedly "peaceful" Muslim neighbors, and drawing parallels between the genocide against Copts in Egypt and Christians in Sudan, and the plans they have for us here?

138 posted on 03/08/2006 10:55:10 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: A.Hun
Big government, socialist, political opportunists describes our true enemy...the Democrats.

God help us!! Open your eyes, please!

139 posted on 03/08/2006 10:59:06 AM PST by eskimo (Political groupies - rabid defenders of the indefensible.)
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To: jveritas
Blame, blame, blame, let us all chant together.

If we don't establish who's to blame, how will be know who to defeat in the next primary?

Reagan got elected in a landslide by being more fiscally conservative than Bush...Kennedy got elected in a landslide by being more fiscally conservative than Bush...even Clinton got elected in a landslide by being more fiscally conservative than Bush... Bush has presided over the biggest increase in federal spending since Johnson.
140 posted on 03/08/2006 10:59:48 AM PST by Small-L (I'm a staunch libertarian Republican, but I refuse to vote for a RINO)
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