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Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll (69% of Americans Want alternate theories allowed in class)
WorldnetDaily.Com ^ | 03/07/2006

Posted on 03/07/2006 2:34:37 PM PST by SirLinksalot

Darwin smacked in new U.S. poll

Whopping 69 percent of Americans want alternate theories in classroom

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Posted: March 7, 2006 5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution.

The Zogby International survey indicated only 21 percent think biology teachers should teach only Darwin's theory of evolution and the scientific evidence that supports it.

A majority of Americans from every sub-group were at least twice as likely to prefer this approach to science education, the Zogby study showed.

About 88 percent of Americans 18-29 years old were in support, along with 73 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of independent voters.

Others who strongly support teaching the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory include African-Americans (69 percent), 35-54 year-olds (70 percent) and Democrats (60 percent).

Casey Luskin, program officer for public policy and legal affairs with Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture said while his group does not favor mandating the teaching of intelligent design, "we do think it is constitutional for teachers to discuss it precisely because the theory is based upon scientific evidence not religious premises."

The Seattle-based Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"The public strongly agrees that students should be permitted to learn about such evidence," Luskin said.

The Discovery Institute noted Americans also support students learning about evidence for intelligent design alongside evolution in biology class – 77 percent.

Just over half – 51 percent – agree strongly with that. Only 19 percent disagree.

As WorldNetDaily reported, more than 500 scientists with doctoral degrees have signed a statement expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution.

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; crevolist; darwin; immaculateconception; poll; scienceeducation; smacked; wingnutdoozy
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To: Elsie

Those paleoanthropologists don't have an easy job unless they can find a decent draftsman to neatly draw up their imaginative charts.


321 posted on 03/07/2006 7:14:33 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

AutoCAD? ;o)


322 posted on 03/07/2006 7:17:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: SirLinksalot
Good.

Of course this means that those who follow the Religion of Evolution will have a good time telling you that all this means is that everyone (but them) is stupid.

redrock

323 posted on 03/07/2006 7:18:22 PM PST by redrock ("How God Created us...I have no real Idea. Telling God how He 'has to do things'...is not my way")
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To: redrock

He who laughs last laughs best!


324 posted on 03/07/2006 7:19:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: RightWhale
Well, it has been a while. I have taken some adult re-education classes recently, the most amusing being anthropology where we got to go into the basement storeroom and look at plaster copies of evolutionary skulls and teeth. It would be difficult to put them in proper evolutionary sequence.

I can't believe that.

Some of my fondest memories of grad school are in the bone lab. After you actually look at the bones and casts, and notice the features, it is easy to arrange them in an order. If you use observation and logic, there will be few of the major skulls that are unclear. A lot of the spare parts are more difficult, and folks are using multivariate stats to try to sort them out, but the primary skulls form an awfully clear picture.

Have you actually ever tried this? Great fun!

325 posted on 03/07/2006 7:21:34 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

326 posted on 03/07/2006 7:21:57 PM PST by balrog666 (Come and see my new profile! Now with corrected spelling!)
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To: Coyoteman

" Some of my fondest memories of grad school..."

Enough of the hubris! I'm not impressed!


:)


327 posted on 03/07/2006 7:23:53 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Elsie
Speaking of old posts...

You left off my comment to you: "It effectively demolishes the entire creationist argument. Excellent reading!"

You had something similar to this last time I saw you post this, but it somehow got lost this time. Got to do better than that!

328 posted on 03/07/2006 7:24:41 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Every species that exists today has existed since creation, and there is no evidence to the contrary, only intense desire and belief in anything that would negate God's plan.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

329 posted on 03/07/2006 7:25:45 PM PST by balrog666 (Come and see my new profile! Now with corrected spelling!)
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To: editor-surveyor
He who laughs last laughs best!

Actually, he who laughs last didn't get the joke.

330 posted on 03/07/2006 7:27:51 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: editor-surveyor

"No, changes do not occur. That is not science, but myth. Every species that exists today has existed since creation, and there is no evidence to the contrary, only intense desire and belief in anything that would negate God's plan."

Don't be surprised when people don't take you seriously. You only believe in God because thats what you were told when you were young. There is simply no proof gods exits, so you can't use it as scientific purpose. Don't bother trying to prove it with the bible, i want real proof.


331 posted on 03/07/2006 7:30:47 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: SirLinksalot
"A new poll shows 69 percent of Americans believe public school teachers should present both the evidence for and against Darwinian evolution."

The evidence against Darwinian evolution of course being "I don't believe in the evidence FOR Darwinian evolution."

332 posted on 03/07/2006 7:32:08 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Coyoteman

Yes, when we're feeling especially exuberant we set off a few blasts from the fire extinguishers as well. Drives the poor Safety people nuts having to replace them all the time.

Speaking of science, religion, and rituals in scientific contexts, a friend told me that there used to be in his research group a rather interesting character. One day one of their students was particularly plagued by bad luck in her synthesis. This guy decided that her fume hood was possessed, and went to exorcise it. He used a wash bottle of acetone to spray a cross in the hood and then lit it on fire, I suppose simultaneously chanting the appropriate rite.

I don't know if it worked. Might be worth a try tomorrow, though.


333 posted on 03/07/2006 7:34:56 PM PST by ahayes
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To: Dimensio; microgood
This is more than just common characteristics in the DNA, this is common characteristics in DNA segments where a difference would have no effect on physical characteristics of the organism.

And how would we know that there would be no effect on the physical characteristics? Wouldn't it be better stated *no KNOWN effect*? And what about non-physical characterists? Has science reached the point of being able to claim that they know for sure every possible explanation for every bit of genetic material and for it's placement within the DNA?

334 posted on 03/07/2006 7:39:52 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Every species that exists today has existed since creation, and there is no evidence to the contrary."

There's the problem with "Creation Science", it's based on "theories" that can't be verified, and that fact alone then becomes proof to the validity of the theory.

It's like a weird mix of religion, pseudo-science, and conspiracy theories.

To IDers, lack of proof IS proof.

335 posted on 03/07/2006 7:40:21 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, changes do not occur. That is not science, but myth. Every species that exists today has existed since creation, and there is no evidence to the contrary, only intense desire and belief in anything that would negate God's plan.

You really believe their is no change through reproduction and everything is a exact clone?

336 posted on 03/07/2006 7:42:31 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: metmom

Appeal to ignorance, huh? That's kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel.

How about we rephrase it "no perceptible effect," would that work for you?


337 posted on 03/07/2006 7:43:48 PM PST by ahayes
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To: jennyp

Well, both WND and DI seem to have the same funding source.


338 posted on 03/07/2006 7:44:41 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: editor-surveyor

Funny how so many masses of Christians seem to have an intense desire and belief in anything to negate God's plan.

Of course that doesn't create a problem for you, because they're just fake Christians.


339 posted on 03/07/2006 7:45:32 PM PST by ahayes
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To: salexander
The question the evolutionists really need to answer is this: Which part of this wonderful lifestyle you're working so hard to protect do you think you're going to get to take with you?

What exactly is this "wonderful lifestyle" that an evolutionist must be living? Please be specific. I want to know if I'm conforming right. :-)

340 posted on 03/07/2006 7:46:42 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Life and Solitude in Easter Island by Verdugo-Binimelis)
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