Posted on 03/07/2006 5:26:51 AM PST by JRochelle
She died of lung cancer. Haven't found any links yet. Heard it on WLSAM Chicago.
Maybe you can point us to the post where someone said she was a hero.
She was a good and kind person who went through a lot in her life, and now she has died. And some of us were saddend by that fact.
What if they had never smoked in the first place?
A hypothesis--smoking has provided a scapegoat for a lot of lung cancers that would have happened anyway.
Every time there's a breakthrough in cancer treatments, there should be an expected uptick later in heart disease or another killer. Maybe that person who escaped cancer got heart disease a few years later. Should we be alarmed at the sudden "increase" of heart disease, or even blame the cancer treatment for heart disease?
The trouble with stats--it's so hard to see what they reveal for what they conceal.
Well, I have to disagree with you on the 'nothing special' bit. I never paid much attention to Christopher Reeve until after his accident. The thing that got my attention the most was his great attitude. He didn't whine and bi%%ch and moan about his life on a regular basis. He tried to be upbeat and optimistic and inspire others. Now, given his lot and the extent of his injuries, I'd say he was pretty special to keep appearing in public in his compromised physical state, to battle through his own personal demons in a very public way, and to try to present a calm, dignified demeanor through it all. He worked to make things better for people. People who most of us don't think about on a regular basis (those with brain and spinal injuries). He didn't give up. He didn't quit and he didn't solicit pity. That, IMHO, made him a very special human being.
Prayers and condolences to the young son left behind.
bump for when I can read with chocolate nearby...very sad
You've made the way you feel about Dana Reeve's death very clear. Just because you are not moved and saddened by it, please spare those of us who are and give it a rest.
I am new to this site, but was surfing the web to find out more on Dana Reeves' passing and found this. I just wanted to say how sad I feel for the loss of such a wonderful person. Recently I wrote a quote down in my journal that I heard her say. It was "Instead of crying for what you've lost.....Smile for what you had." Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all had this kind of attitude as we face our own life struggles. The bible says "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" I believe she is.
May she rest in peace. Prayers for her young son.
Let's see: Christianity began some 2000 years ago in the Middle East, and primarily spread northward into Europe for the first 1000 years of its existence. Most populations of humans never heard of Christianity until Europeans began sailing the oceans.
Homo sapiens have been on the planet somewhere in the range of 200,000 years, give or take a few thousand. In other words, the overwhelming number of humans who ever lived never heard of Christianity. Even for those who lived during the past 1000 years, most people followed (and still follow) the religion and traditions of the society into which they were born.
Would a loving God -- who created all things and knows the facts above because it's how He set up the world -- really condem the vast majority of all humans ever born to hell because they never knew of Jesus? Makes no sense to me.
Well said. Politically speaking, I didn't agree with Chris Reeve or his wife. However, not everything in life is about politics. Compassion and kindness know no political boundary. Neither does the ability to admire the courage of Chris Reeve for the qualities you described so well.
I don't think so, but I can't ignore the accomplishments of Christianity either. I sure am glad I was born in the part of the world under Christian influence.
Geez newbie, shouldn't you do a little homework before you stick your foot completely down your throat?
I can't stand cigarette smoke.
BTW, you shouldn't troll.
Bingo Jerry?
Any relation to Mungo Jerry? That's my favorite skiffle group.
No, it was supposed to be Bing Jerry but that was taken.
No, you're greatly mistaken. The Bible is clear that there is only one way to heaven, and that is through accepting Jesus Christ as one's savior (John 14:6, Acts 4:12).
The Jews are justified by their keeping the Law they were given. At the last Judgment, the 12 Tribes of Isreal are judged by the 12 Apostles under the direction of Yeshua the Christ.
The Jews were given the Law by God in the time of Moses, 1400 years before Christ. However, even during that time, the Law was never meant to be the means of salvation for anybody. The reason: no one could keep the Law. The Law cannot save anybody; it only serves to expose a man's sins. The X-Ray machine does not cure a person of cancer; it only exposes its presence. The Law serves the same purpose: it exposes the presence of sin in the human heart. Paul makes this clear in Romans 10 and other places in the New Testament. Any Jew living since the time of Christ is under the same obligation to acknowledge/accept Jesus as his own personal savior, just as is any non-Jew. The Law has no power to save, only to condemn. No one can live up to the perfect Law of God.
Believers who die in their belief in Christ do not wait until Judgment Day, but go directly from death to Heaven. They do not taste of death. Also there are those of the Tribulation who turned to God in the End and stand before the throne.
It is true that believers in Christ enter immediately into heaven upon their physical death. Later, at some point when the rapture occurs, they will receive their resurrected (glorified) bodies. However, at some point beyond that, all believers must stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ (the Bema Seat). This is not to evaluate whether they get to stay in heaven - that issue has already been settled through the cross and the fact of their belief in Christ while they were on earth - but rather, to evaluate the quality of their works and service to Christ, for the purpose of determining their heavenly rewards, privileges, positions. Some will rule and reign with Christ, while others will be established in far lesser capacities. All believers go to heaven, but there are degrees of eternal rewards in heaven, just as there are degrees of eternal punishment in hell for the damned.
Tribulation believers (who will very likely suffer a great deal for their faith, unto death) likewise enter immediately into heaven upon death.
Those believers who are alive when Christ comes to the clouds in the air above the earth to "rapture" (catch up, take away) the Church (all believers in Christ) will actually not experience physical death, but will instead by "translated" or transformed, receiving their resurrection bodies immediately and thus be with Christ.
So, those who did good works but did not believe in Christ during their lives are given a chance to accept Him at the Resurrection of the Dead.
When Christ returns to the earth following the 7 years of tribulation, the Judgement of Gentiles (Nations) and the Judgement of Jews will occur. This is a different set of judgements altogether from the judgement of believers at the Bema Seat. The believers in Christ are separated from the non-believers. Their works are the basis, these works giving evidence of who is a true believer and who is not. This is not to say that anyone is saved by their works, because no one is saved that way (Eph 2:8-9). Faith in Christ, God's provided Redeemer, is still the one and only means of salvation. But this is a select people group that has survived the horrendous Great Tribulation under the reign of the Antichrist. The polarization between those who performed good works and those who performed evil works will be both extreme and obvious. In this future time, one can only be a Christian literally on pain of death. Those who take the mark of the beast (and that will be the majority of people alive then) show themselves to be on the side of Satan. Those who refuse the mark, and somehow manage to still survive (for many Christians will be martyred during this time) show themselves to be the true servants of Christ. Jesus will indeed separate the two groups, and deport the servants of Satan to hell.
There is no second chance to accept Christ at death, for anybody. That decision is made during one's earthly life.
To acknowledge the fact that the vast majority of humans who ever lived never heard of Christianity is not the same thing as ignoring its accomplishments. The 10 Commandments (pre-Christ) and the teachings Christ had for us, are the best religious messages ever. Too bad most people don't abide by the 10 Commandments, or by Christ's admonition to love one another, meaning to be kind and compassionate toward one another.
No, Christopher Reeve just tried to hijack every spinal cord related charity to put more money into research instead of equipment for easier daily living. After all, he was rich enough to afford his.
I didn't admire him.
That is what I thought, the stress factor
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