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CALIFORNIA: More people now departing state than moving here
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/3/6 | Cicero A. Estrella

Posted on 03/03/2006 7:51:21 AM PST by SmithL

Population trend reversing course for 1st time since '98.

For the first time since 1998, the people who relocated from California to other states outnumbered those who migrated in from other states, according to a report released by the state's Department of Finance on Thursday.

California, which had a population of more than 37 million in 2005, had a net loss of 28,565 people to other states during the fiscal year that ended July 1, according to report estimates.

A department analyst said the loss can't be blamed on a mass exodus similar to one that the state experienced before the dot-com boom of the late 1990s.

Howard Roth, chief economist with the department, said California's housing costs discourage people from other states from moving here.

"The outflow hasn't changed much, but fewer people are coming here," Roth said. "Houses were already unaffordable, but they've become more so in the last two years. It's discouraging people from taking job offers in California."

According to DataQuick, the median price of a house in California was $452,000 in January. In the Bay Area, the median price was $607,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caleconomy; californiahereigo; exodus; goeastyoungman
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To: SmithL

And they're bringing their liberalism with them, God help us all.


61 posted on 03/03/2006 8:35:58 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: JeeperFreeper

I live here, in Ca. I see out of state plates, for months, (driving my kids to school). These people live here with out of state plates. I see only a few moving in my community. It usually because they want the big $$$ out of their homes and move out of state only to be able to pocket the $$$'s./


62 posted on 03/03/2006 8:36:13 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

The sad-sack libbies would just pitch it to a commie judge and get an injunction.


63 posted on 03/03/2006 8:36:52 AM PST by Betis70 (zoom zoom)
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To: pikachu

My wife and I went on to San Diego on holiday last year, we had a great time and the people were very friendly. But I was amazed to find out that the place was going bankrupt.

A beautiful tourist attraction and yet they couldn't spend their money wisely. Such a pity!!


64 posted on 03/03/2006 8:37:09 AM PST by Brit
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To: SmithL
According to DataQuick, the median price of a house in California was $452,000 in January. In the Bay Area, the median price was $607,000.

Someone's buying those homes or they'd be in the same price range as Nobodywantstolivehere North Dakota.

65 posted on 03/03/2006 8:37:27 AM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
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To: mountainfolk

Next time speak up. Do not walk away. You are absolutely right. I have opened a few minds and mouths in the last 4 years. Im hoping they are to dumb to register and find the local voting centers.


66 posted on 03/03/2006 8:38:18 AM PST by newconhere
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To: SmithL

This song is a little old, but very appropriate:
Bob Rivers Twisted Tunes: Californians Leavin'
http://www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/tunes/tunes.asp?Var=C

Click on the first song.


67 posted on 03/03/2006 8:41:25 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "I believe Hillary is the aunti-christ.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

>>I do everything possible to keep 'em from stopping in NM.

I might be stopping there soon. :P

Of course my mom is from there, so I think I have a "get out of California" free card.

BTW how are the motorcycle roads there? When I lived there I didn't have a fun enough car to explore, but I'd guess Rt 14, the road I know as south 14, the high road to Taos, and the Cuba-Jemez Springs-Los Alamos routes must be fun. Must be some others down in the Gila too.


68 posted on 03/03/2006 8:42:16 AM PST by Betis70 (zoom zoom)
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To: newconhere
Yankees go home....back in the 80's they flocked to Texas when the boom was over they left. They're again migrating to Texas...illegals from the south and yankees from the north...oh my...
69 posted on 03/03/2006 8:42:31 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: SmithL

Illegal immigration was outpaced by those fleeing the state? I don't believe it.


70 posted on 03/03/2006 8:43:22 AM PST by hattend (Keep Drinking Until Nagin Makes Sense)
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To: Brit
A beautiful tourist attraction and yet they couldn't spend their money wisely. Such a pity!!

The politicians voted themselfs and their buddies better and better benefits while screwing everyone else. Of course, the folks that benefited from the largess are going to be exempt from prosecution.

71 posted on 03/03/2006 8:43:29 AM PST by pikachu (Be alert --we need more lerts!)
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To: Betis70

FReepers always welcome. South 14 is a nice ride, seeing it's my daily commute and I never get tired of it. Up through the Jemez is beautiful. Going up through Taos to Chama is very nice too.


72 posted on 03/03/2006 8:44:41 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Vision

Can you imagine what will happen after either Southern California or the SF Bay area has a REAL earthquake?


73 posted on 03/03/2006 8:46:27 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: SmithL; sure_fine

My sister and her husband bought a beautiful home in Mill Valley on Mt Tamalpais, in 1973, for $77,000 and it's now worth $2.4 million, as of last year. Un-fricking-believeable.


74 posted on 03/03/2006 8:46:29 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: Strategerist

Do you mean they won't have the money to deal with it?


75 posted on 03/03/2006 8:47:50 AM PST by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: JeeperFreeper

This is from a year ago.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1377367/posts


76 posted on 03/03/2006 8:48:06 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: All

After graduating college in 1980 and accepting a job with Dow Chemical in sales, I was sent to the San Francisco from Indiana) sales office for training. After one year, you get your own territory, and they ask for three preferences of cities/locations where you would like to work so that they can try to match you with openings.

I had not listed San Francisco, ney even California, as a preference. My Management was shocked. Every trainee who had been trained in the San Fran office wanted to stay there.

I was not like the short-sighted 20 somethings. I had already seen the price of real estate. I had seen other single sales reps who were purchasing homes together because they could not afford to purchase them on a single income, but didn't want to wait util marriage and a second income to invest in a house. Rents were atrocious. What happened when your co-owner was promoted and transferred, which generally happened in the first 3-5 years? You were forced to sell your home or buy them out.

Taxes in 1981 were very high out there. I hated earthquakes. I just didn't see my future there. I know I made the right decision today because I never would have been happy in such a liberal culture.


77 posted on 03/03/2006 8:48:29 AM PST by Madeleine Ward
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To: xusafflyer
Indiana is one of the wealthiest states in the U.S. Many people living there own large homes with acreage. They flock southward when the winter get tough. I used to own rental property in Indiana. Have good friends living there. Oregon is the worst state, the most corrupt state I have lived in. Everything is controlled by the mob out here.
78 posted on 03/03/2006 8:48:50 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Red Badger
Red States get redder, Blue States get bluer........

Actually, they all get more purple, sorry to say :(

Californians: please, please stay out of Texas.

79 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:01 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: newconhere
I am not shy about my politics, and am open for discussion with persons who are intelligent and/or educable. These losers were neither. And rude as well to try and inject their anger into a sociable gathering at another persons home. Believe me, there are times it is better to walk away and leave the angry person hanging and looking stupid than to give them a platform.
80 posted on 03/03/2006 8:52:38 AM PST by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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