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PM shuns US 'slavish love of guns'
ninemsn ^ | Mar 1, 2006 | NA

Posted on 03/01/2006 12:40:25 PM PST by neverdem

Prime Minister John Howard says he tightened gun laws after the Port Arthur massacre because he did not want Australia going down the same path as the United States.

Mr Howard, on the eve of his 10th anniversary in office, said the nation's grief over the 1996 Port Arthur massacre had been a great opportunity to tighten Australia's gun laws.

"I would call that very definitely an extraordinary outpouring of amazement and grief in this country and I knew out of that there was an opportunity to grab the moment and think about a fundamental change to gun laws in this country," he told the Nine Network.

Mr Howard said he did not want Australia to adopt the American stance on guns.

"I did not want Australia to go down the American path," he said.

"There are some things about America I admire and there are some things I don't.

"And one of the things I don't admire about America is their ... slavish love of guns. They're evil."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: neverdem
"Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerly exercised for the good of its victims may be the most opressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." --- C. S. Lewis
21 posted on 03/01/2006 12:56:49 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: neverdem

I just read a story in the paper today about a husband killng an attacker on his wife in the front yard of their house as she prepared to walk the dogs in the morning. The guy was wearing a mask and her screaming awoke her husband to come and put the predatory rat bastard down forever with an "evil" gun. He will never attack another woman again.

I think the guy has been good supporting the USA in the war on terror. But he obviously has never feared for his own or loved ones safety.


22 posted on 03/01/2006 12:57:16 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: neverdem

I like Howard for his steadfast support of us. However with statements like this i am glad i am not an Australian citizen


23 posted on 03/01/2006 12:57:57 PM PST by DM1
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To: neverdem

Note to John Howard: The guns are a means to an end. What we love is freedom, the guns just ensure that our government, or anyone else for that matter, cannot take away our liberty.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 12:57:59 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: neverdem
And one of the things I don't admire about America is their ... slavish love of guns. They're evil.

Gun owners (& a slavish love of guns) in America is a minority position.

That Howard sees it otherwise is probably a result of Hollywood movie content.

25 posted on 03/01/2006 12:58:04 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: 45Auto

You mean Australia doesn't want their violent crime and murder rates to go down for 10 consecutive years like it has in the US?

Why do aussies vote for socialist scum like that idiot ?


26 posted on 03/01/2006 12:58:11 PM PST by manglor
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To: neverdem

I love my guns! LOVE THEM!


27 posted on 03/01/2006 12:58:44 PM PST by steel_resolve (Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammo.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

PS

You dont want gun CRIME to become as bad as the USA?. DONT LET LIBERALS RUN YOUR JUSTICE SYSTEM!


28 posted on 03/01/2006 12:59:07 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: neverdem
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage then to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --- Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764
29 posted on 03/01/2006 12:59:31 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Slavish is rather extreme language.


30 posted on 03/01/2006 1:00:20 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: manglor

Howard will talk out of the other side of his mouth when they need the Arsenal of Democracy.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 1:01:22 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: VOA

You know, for the more conservative party in Australia, they sure have a funny way of showing it. Although, their party name is the Labour Party.... so you never know.


32 posted on 03/01/2006 1:01:46 PM PST by Galena Nevada
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To: manglor
Why do aussies vote for socialist scum like that idiot ?
It has got to be that three or four citys determine the outcome of the elections, the rest have to live with it.
I've met and been friends with several Australians over my live. I've never met one that didn't love liberty and Independence (or firearms for that matter).

GE
33 posted on 03/01/2006 1:03:08 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: navyguy
I wonder if he would support banning pens. Maybe that would stop people POLITICIANS from writing bad checks STUPID LAWS.
34 posted on 03/01/2006 1:04:06 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: neverdem
They're evil

Sometimes the question arises whether PMs are smarter than ordinary mortals. This is one of those times.

35 posted on 03/01/2006 1:04:25 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: manglor
"If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying." --- Orrin G. Hatch, Chairman, Subcommittee on the Constitution, January 20, 1982
36 posted on 03/01/2006 1:04:46 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: .cnI redruM

I'm not sure if most people are aware of it or not, but Australia and Great Britain have much higher violent crime rates than we do in the States.


37 posted on 03/01/2006 1:04:52 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: neverdem

When rampant, fulminating jihadism reaches critical mass, perhaps he will repent of his actions.


38 posted on 03/01/2006 1:05:15 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: neverdem
He doesn't want to go down the same route as the US? The route where increased legal gun ownership has lead to a decrease in crime? The route that is dramatically contrasted by the explosion in violent crime in Australia since the gun ban?

Brilliant, mate.
39 posted on 03/01/2006 1:08:35 PM PST by larryw408
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To: neverdem
What's not to love about this?


40 posted on 03/01/2006 1:09:09 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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