Neoconservatives: The new hippies

Daily Colonial ^ | Wednesday, February 22 2006 | Danny Kampf

[Jim Robinson]

I think the US (along with other members of the free world) probably did have an agenda and contingency plans regarding Saddam Hussein before 9/11. But I believe this developed long before GWB was elected to the presidency. And who knows what would've happened had not OBL carried out his plans first. I doubt the world would've sat still for Saddam to develop nuclear weapons. Just as I do not believe the free world will sit still for Iran to develop their nuclear weapons.

[jb6]

"The CIA has been organizing "regime change" for 50 years. They have removed many governments that are unfriendly to US corporate interests and replaced them with regimes that are more likely to work closely and slavishly to carry out the economic and geopolitical desires of the US corporate elite. But the CIA's crimes don't end when a right-wing coup has succeeded. The CIA then has to keep its repressive despots in power in order to ensure that they can put into place and then maintain a variety of unjust economic systems and structures. This is done with arms sales (and outright gifts of "surplus" weapons), glowing diplomatic support, "intelligence support" (sic) and massive economic investment (i.e., pillaging as much profit as possible by exploiting the natural resources that drew them in there in the first place, and handing out some of the spoils to a loyal local elite).

This is crap, but the fact is, we helped put Saddam's Baathaist into power to remove the communists who had over thrown the king. That is a fact. We also removed the two predicessors in the Baathast Regime.

[Jim Robinson]

Well, I kinda doubt we'll be seeing American tanks rolling into any Saudi Palaces. Unless it's for a fill up.

[jb6]

I think the US (along with other members of the free world) probably did have an agenda and contingency plans regarding Saddam Hussein before 9/11

No doubt, any good command will always have contingency plans dealing with any nation in its area of responsability. However, I still say that after Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia should have been the target. It did attack America and still does, daily. Furthermore, the Saudies have WMD, missiles to deliver them (at least to Israel and maybe Cairo) and told the UN nuclear inspectors to shove it when they wanted info on their nuclear weapons programs.

[PhilDragoo]

Danny Kampf is a sophomore majoring in political science. A self-admitted liberal, Kampf is increasingly exploring the politics of moderation and realism. Taking issues one-at-a-time, his interests lie in trying to divorce himself from ideology in favor of pragmatic solutions. His two biggest influences are Fareed Zakaria and Andrew Sullivan. He is the quintessential self-hating liberal.

I recommend Stephen F. Hayes, THE CONNECTION: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered AMERICA, HarperCollins, 2004. The left and its propaganda arm the media are in denial about the relationship between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

But, hey, PEACE & LOVE, man.

[jb6]

Unfortunetly you're right for now. I still believe its a matter of time. They continue to sponsor the very vipers who wish to exterminate us from the face of the earth. After all, only two regimes recognized the Taliban. It's founder: Pakistan and its financier: Saudi Arabia.

[TAdams8591]

There has been much wrong with our foreign policy for many years. Eastern Europe should never have been handed over to communists and we should have been knocking out two-bit dictators and communist regimes like Castro's and establishing democracies all along. Among other things the world be safer, more prosperous and the immigration problems in the West would have been sharply curtailed.

[Jim Robinson]

LOL http://www.representativepress.org/index.html

[potlatch]

But, hey, PEACE & LOVE, man.

LOL, they would look cute in that 'tie-die' stuff!!

[MNJohnnie]

This is crap, but the fact is, we helped put Saddam's Baathaist into power to remove the communists who had over thrown the king. That is a fact. We also removed the two predicessors in the Baathast Regime

Absolute completely wrong. A total 100% factually incorrect statement. You are completey WRONG. What you are thinking of is the CIA aiding the Shah of IRAN in 1953 to launch a counter coup against a KGB sponsered "peoples revolution" in IRAN. The US Govt had NOTHING to do with Saddam's rise to power. The Baathists were SOVIET CLIENTS. You are completely and totally ignorant of even the most BASIC facts of Iraq's history. Please do NOT arrogant repeat such utter falsehoods.

[jb6]

WW2 was not a mistake. WW1 was. If the Kaiser had won, what would have been the results? More European territory for Germany and some colonies, period. No Hitler or European soviet revolutions. Furthermore, the Whites would have gotten backing and crushed the Reds in Russia.

[Jim Robinson]

Can't wait to take out the demon Saudi Arabia, eh? Better be careful lest someone labels you a neocon.

[jb6]

The CIA aided both the Shah in Iran and the Baathists in Iraq to remove the communists who over threw the king. Why would the Soviets remove the Communist party of Iraq to replace them with milder Socialists? That makes ZERO sense.

[jb6]

That's the difference, Saudi Arabia has already declared war on us, period. I'm not concerned with democracy there, which would only bring a Bin Ladin type to power. I'm concerned with the present powers who are trying to destroy us through a-symetrical warfare, while dropping $60 million plus on DC each and every year for 30 plus years. Saudi Arabia started their war on us a long time ago.

[jb6]

As I said, the historical part of CIA invovlement with the Baathists is all I was looking for. The commentary at the end was stupid crap. Typical of any main media or their lower cousins....state the facts, then spin them.

[Smartass]

How about the mother of all Neo-Democrats...

 

[Jim Robinson]

Why, why, you, you... Trotskyite! I never. Harumph!

[jb6]

Why, why, you, you... Trotskyite!

I hope that was in jest. I dispise the bastard kiddies of Marx in any form.