[Antoninus]

So get off your high horses and apply the "freedom and liberty" view point we all here at FR like to express about other things to people who don't want kids.

You can thank us later when you're old and decrepit and our kids are: mowing your lawn, shoveling your walkway, delivering your mail, helping you cross the street, protecting you from criminals, and taking care of you in a nursing home.

[linda_22003]

And we'll be paying for all of those services. :)

[MaDeuce]

"You can thank us later when you're old and decrepit and our kids are: mowing your lawn, shoveling your walkway, delivering your mail, helping you cross the street, protecting you from criminals, and taking care of you in a nursing home."

Antoninus ... would it make you feel better if I had some kids then (knowing my temper and dislike of kids), and beat them when they give me lip or don't do what I tell them to do ... as I said in my original post for my personal situation ... at least I KNOW I WOULD BE A BAD PARRENT and am at least smart enough to realize this!

But to the point ... people make their choices based on person in-site and in this situation should not be lambasted for it ... otherwise you'll have a portion of society that abuses their unwanted kids and will end up in prison ... one place I don't want to end up cause of some wise-ass unsuspecting snot nosed kid's back talk.

And I tell ya, I know two couples kids who want nothing to do with their parents (ungratefully scum). They can't wait to dump them off in some HOME when they are old and take the $$$ and house ... I hear them jokingly talk about it with a nervous laugh.