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"When people say, "I can't be a good parent" what I hear is "I'm too lazy to put the time in to make myself a good parent.""

You don't know me very well, you just don't "make yourself" be someone your not, but thats OK. You have your kids and I'll have none ... no problem. Just don't look down your nose at those who don't want them ... thats the whole jist of my original post.

And please don't put the GOD stuff into the discussion ... its getting old.

You don't know me very well, you just don't "make yourself" be someone your not, but thats OK.

Perhaps you don't, but a lot of other people do. We are not defined as a person by our pathologies or bad behaviors, but rather, to the extent that we are able to overcome and get beyond them.

You have your kids and I'll have none ... no problem. Just don't look down your nose at those who don't want them ... thats the whole jist of my original post.

I'm not "looking down my nose". If that's your perception, you're reading into my post something that's not there.

And please don't put the GOD stuff into the discussion ... its getting old.

Why not? If I don't, I'm doing you a disservice and hiding my motives. That would be pretty lame, wouldn't it? Besides, perhaps if I put the God stuff out there now, God won't have to put it out there for you Himself on the Day of Reckoning.

Well, if you don't want that "God stuff" in the conversation, you must not mind if your spouse commits adultery, because the same God that said "thou shall not" said "be fruitful and multiply".