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Bye-bye baby (Childfree and Loving It)
Telegraph ^ | February 26, 2006 | Julia Llewellyn Smith

Posted on 02/28/2006 1:23:15 AM PST by beaversmom

Fascinating research suggests that as many as one in five thirtysomething British women is planning a child-free future.

When Jemma North was eight years old she had an epiphany. 'At school, someone's mum was pregnant. All the other little girls were really excited, but all I could think was, "You go through all that and all you have at the end of it is a baby?" I decided then that I would never have children.'

Of course, Jemma's pronouncement was dismissed, much as if she'd announced a plan to be a circus clown. But today, aged 32, married and surrounded by peers who are starting families, she is as adamant about her choice as ever. Yet everyone from family to complete strangers is constantly telling her: 'You'll change your mind.' If they do take her seriously, they warn her: 'You'll regret it.' It infuriates her.

'I don't want children, my husband doesn't want them and we're happy as we are,' she insists. 'The only thing that makes me unhappy is people questioning my decision all the time.'

In our society few objects attract greater pity than the childless woman. She is, we assume, old, unfulfilled, shallow, emotionally damaged, out of touch with the greatest truths of the universe. Almost daily, headlines warn about thirtysomething career women risking heartbreak by delaying pregnancy. Couples spend thousands of pounds to endure the physical and mental ordeal of IVF.

Yet for Jemma, who works for an engineering firm in Northampton, such a vision had no power to frighten. 'I am more put off by the image of being a mother,' she tells me. 'I'm not saying mothers are stupid, because, of course, a lot are far more intelligent than me, but that was my early impression. It seemed to be the thing you did if you had no other ambition.'

Jemma is far from alone. According to the Office of National Statistics, one in five British women in their thirties has decided not to have children. And it may be that a number of these have had less choice in the matter than they thought. Geneticists at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute in Cambridge have demonstrated in mice that mutations on a certain gene can cause mothers to neglect their offspring. The same gene also exists in humans.

But whatever the social or genetic forces that play upon us, becoming a mother is still seen as a defining moment. Magazines are full of celebrities such as Gwyneth Paltrow gushing about how her Oscar means nothing compared to the delights of changing Apple's nappy. In contrast, rare are the voices of women such as the actress Helen Mirren, who has admitted: 'I didn't have that desire to be a mother and I don't think a lot of women do. A lot are pressured into it and they're miserable.' And whenever such comments are voiced, they are usually drowned out by a clamour of disapproval and disbelief.

'Oh, I am fed up of having to justify myself on this subject!' explodes Nicki Defago, a 39-year-old married and childfree (to use her preferred jargon) broadcast journalist. She is the author of Childfree and Loving It!, a book written after she discovered Amazon offered more than 1,000 tomes about what children eat but none about the advantages of childlessness.

'When you say you don't want children, you get the same reaction you'd have got 20 years ago if you said you were gay,' Nicki continues. 'I imagine it's a bit like you must feel if you don't go to church in America. A big section of society is appalled at the notion that there are ladies who don't want to have a baby, and quite a lot of people aren't judgemental but still just can't get it.'

Until I started researching this article, I confess, I fell firmly in the latter camp. Aware of the devastation children would wreak on my carefree life, I nonetheless always hoped to have them. So fundamental was this desire that I was sceptical of women who claimed they didn't want children. As far as I was concerned, they were just trying to put a brave face on the fact that they were unable to conceive, or had never found the right man, or had been bludgeoned by their partner into agreeing not to have them.

Nicki doesn't see it that way. 'You get a far better reception if you tell people you tried and couldn't have children, than if you tell them you don't want them,' she corrects me. But why are people who, for example, are supportive of gay rights, unable to get their heads round the idea that not everyone wants to breed?

Nicki thinks it is because the issue of children 'goes so deeply. A high percentage of us now think there's no God and if you add to that there's no need to reproduce then what on earth is it all for? Choosing not to have children gets to the heart of all those big issues.'

Existential questions apart, much of the debate seems to be fuelled by a baser jealousy. However much they love their children, most parents still yearn for aspects of their old lives.

To see a childless friend enjoying the orderliness, extra cash and spontaneity they have lost, with no apparent sense of 'missing out', can be horribly undermining. Recently the 53-year-old model Marie Helvin explained that her youthful looks were down to a life of no children and, therefore, no stress - a comment that sent a visceral pang through every mother slathering Touche Eclat on her eyebags.

'I know one father of small children who's always saying things like, "Ooh, it's not fair, you are going on holiday next week, we have to go in the school holidays,"' says Jemma North. 'He doesn't seem to appreciate that it's not a question of fairness, that I made a decision to live like this.'

For Regan Forrest, 30, a museums exhibit organiser from Leicester, the downside of children starts with conception. 'I'm uncomfortable with the physical changes of pregnancy and labour,' she admits. 'In my twenties I had body image issues. I've learnt to put up with that but the idea of putting your body through an unknown process is completely terrifying. The turning-point came at a work dinner when a colleague started going on about how his wife had disembowelled herself during labour,' she recalls.

'My partner's a doctor and the obstetric part of his training completely repulsed him. I'd never want him to be repulsed by me.'Equally daunting was the prospect of combining her career with childcare. 'I like to give my career 100 per cent. I don't think I could do the at-home mum thing.'

To parents, such misgivings may seem narcissistic and defeatist. But, Regan retorts, 'I'm demonstrating a degree of self-awareness. I may be selfish but at least I'm not going to let my selfishness affect another person. Anyway, what could be more selfish than propagating your genes? People say that on a biological level that is what we are here to do, but as a species we have transcended our biology. We don't live in caves any more and we don't need to breed.'

Like all women I spoke to, Regan is unconvinced by the arguments in favour of parenthood - the almost transcendent love you feel for children, the joy of watching them develop. 'Maybe women like us are mentally deficient,' says Regan. 'But we're so lucky to be born at this point in history. In the past, I'm sure, women felt like us, but they didn't have a choice.'

The polarity between the two camps could not be sharper. When I told friends who are mothers, or hope to be, about this article, they repeatedly said that - while intellectually respecting the position of the childless - emotionally they found it completely alien. Similarly, child-free women are politely disbelieving when they listen to friends describe a yearning for babies that is almost like a physical ache.

'I'd love to be sympathetic when I hear about women breaking their hearts trying to get IVF, but I can't. It's the opposite of what I feel,' says Anne-Marie Greenslade, 28, a mental-health worker from Warrington, Cheshire. 'I must look so callous when they're telling me, but I can't help it. I simply can't imagine being in their position.'

And there are compelling statistics to back up Anne-Marie's decision. Surveys show that people who choose not to have children (as opposed to those who desperately want them, but can't) tend to have better marriages, better finances and are no more likely to be unhappy in old age than parents.

Alison Townley, 55, a civil servant from Glasgow, toyed with the idea of becoming a mother in her twenties because it was what society expected of her, but felt unable to take the plunge. Today she has no regrets. 'The anguish I was warned about simply isn't there, which surprised me but in a wonderful way. My husband and I revel in our freedom and we resent implications that our life somehow has no purpose. When people have children they seem to give up on their own aspirations and pass the buck on to the next generation. I love the idea that I can still achieve my potential, rather than foisting all my hopes on some other sap.'


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To: bella1

Those who refuse to reproduce will be ruled by those who do. Its simple mathematics.



That is utterly ridiculous. Are you suggesting that my next-door neighbors who have children are eventually going to rule over my wife and me?

What you say may have some truth with respect to societies, but it does not apply if the individual level.


101 posted on 02/28/2006 8:40:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
Anyone who hypothesizes otherwise may start by explaining the ongoing existence of homosexuality throughout human existence.

Your right about one thing. Sin can not be bred out of humanity.
102 posted on 02/28/2006 8:40:39 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: linda_22003
1. Contraception is morally wrong and should not be practiced (obviously not something people generally agree on).
2. The Muslims are having the children we are not having, and will take over the world (therefore, have babies to kill and be killed).
3. Social Security would not be in trouble now if we'd had all of the babies that were aborted or otherwise prevented from being born (therefore, have babies to be indentured servants for our retirement).

1. I don't deign to spend much time addressing moonbattery.

2. As I noted in my previous message, this is a function of welfare statism, and can only be addressed by removing same.

3. The outcome of a Ponzi Scam (i.e. implosion) cannot be changed by fiddling with this parameter or that.

103 posted on 02/28/2006 8:41:31 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Beelzebubba
Lots of the ladies who have had children have profound regrets about that choice.

Any woman who regrets having her children is truly monstrous, IMHO.
104 posted on 02/28/2006 8:41:58 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: beaversmom

I wish I could have a baby.


105 posted on 02/28/2006 8:42:16 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Antoninus

Hear, hear.


106 posted on 02/28/2006 8:42:33 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: Campion
That's why we call it selfish. It is selfish; it's eating your economic seed corn today so you can get good and fat, never mind the fact that there will be nothing to plant in the spring and you will starve next winter.

A lot of grasshoppers on this thread....
107 posted on 02/28/2006 8:42:50 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

And if you don't have anyone to stick you in the nursing home when you need it? I'm reminded of the bumper sticker: "Be nice to your kids, they'll pick your nursing home."


108 posted on 02/28/2006 8:43:32 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Beelzebubba
Lots of the ladies who have had children have profound regrets about that choice.

Why did they have profound regrets?

109 posted on 02/28/2006 8:44:29 AM PST by Troublemaker
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To: linda_22003
Naturally, if it wasn't what you had hoped for, you have a stronger motivation to answer a poll like that, so it's a self-selected group of responses, not a statistically valid one.

Uh, first of all, it's a poll of "Dear Abby" readers who were actually motivated enough to respond. That is the ultimate self-selected group. I knew at age 14 that Dear Abby was generally giving people pop-psych horrible advice, especially on relationships. Thus, this result is not surprising.

Take the same poll of Dr. Laura listeners and see what you get...
110 posted on 02/28/2006 8:47:51 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: linda_22003
And we'll be paying for all of those services. :)

Perhaps. If you're a charity case, my kids may be ministering to you for free. I'll tell you in advance--they won't mind.
111 posted on 02/28/2006 8:48:55 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Campion
"Comfortable" with your choice? Nope, not at all. Comfortable with mine? Absolutely, but more important that being "comforted," I know that what I'm doing is my duty to God and society.

Amen. Alleluia!
112 posted on 02/28/2006 8:50:08 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Wormwood
No offense, but of the many reasons I can imagine to reproduce, out-breeding Muslims is hardly one of them.

While this is true, I'd say the important thing is to shed the mindset of overpopulation that was drilled into all of us as children by the left.

One thing I'm starting to think, and this is controversial, is that all the birth control they're trying to force on the poor in Africa may be contributing to the poverty. The death cultists see nothing but more mouths to feed. History demonstrates that along with the mouths come little hands and feet to help produce more food.

113 posted on 02/28/2006 8:50:44 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Beelzebubba

When they go to the voting booth, yes, absolutely. The best you can hope for is that you agree with them. If not, oh well, you lose.


114 posted on 02/28/2006 8:51:23 AM PST by bella1
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To: beaversmom
"Ooh, it's not fair, you are going on holiday next week, we have to go in the school holidays,"' says Jemma North. 'He doesn't seem to appreciate that it's not a question of fairness, that I made a decision to live like this.'

Sounds like a typical DUmmie ("It's not fair that the guy who studied while I was out partying makes twice as much money as me...".)

115 posted on 02/28/2006 8:51:29 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b
Easy enough to correct by taking away the various government give-away rewards for breeding.

Why take them away? Without families having children, there is no society.

You'll notice that your atheist friends in Europe and Japan are falling all over themselves to give financial incentives for people to "breed." In France, you can get a $30,000 stipend for having a child. Why do you suppose that is?

The answer is simple. The European governments have accepted the atheist/marxist dogma that people are mainly motivated by financial/economic incentives. In the case of their atheistic populations, that's most likely pretty close to the truth.

I'll tell you straight out--even if the government took away all the "incentives" for us to have kids, we'd still do it. Right now, I have a major financial incentive to send my kids to public school. I'd never do it in a hundred years. Care to guess why?
116 posted on 02/28/2006 8:55:15 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: antaresequity
If that were true...how do you explain homosexuals?

You can't breed out sin.
117 posted on 02/28/2006 8:56:33 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Antoninus
Why take them away?

Because they, like all other types of theft, are immoral in themselves, and because they have pernicious social effects in encouraging people to breed before they have developed the prerequisites of personal responsibility and support.

118 posted on 02/28/2006 9:00:05 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b
Because they, like all other types of theft, are immoral in themselves, and because they have pernicious social effects in encouraging people to breed before they have developed the prerequisites of personal responsibility and support.

For the record, I do not support the income tax and I agree that at its base, payroll withholding is not far from outright theft. If you want to work on changing us over to a NRST system, I'm happy to help.

But even if taxes were collected in a more morally sound manner, I'd still support exemptions for families with children.
119 posted on 02/28/2006 9:03:46 AM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Antoninus

You're repeating exactly what I said in order to disagree with me? How odd.


120 posted on 02/28/2006 9:06:08 AM PST by linda_22003
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