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To: GAB-1955; kronos77; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ..
What I don't buy is that the Serbs were innocent victims of aggression.

They weren't? Not even, say, Militsa Rakich, the 3-year-old Belgrader killed by a NATO cluster bomb while on the potty?

However, Serbia, like the other powers, have to realize and admit they were fighting a religious and civil war and they were breaking the laws of land warfare in doing so.

Maybe. But since there were no "innocent parties" in the Balkans, why was Serbia singled out for punishment? Serbia did not even fight in Bosnia and Croatia. The Yugoslav Army had no personell in either country following the break-up. The YA left Croatia in 1991, and Bosnia in early 1992.

Punishing Radic and Milosevic, and punishing the Croat and Bosnian commanders who committed war crimes, is the right thing.

I agree, but who's Radic?

Some Serbian nationalists haven't admitted there was a war crime committed at Srebrenica even after bodies have been dug up.

All 8,000 or so bodies have been dug up? I'll settle for 4,000. What, not even 4,000? OK, 2,000. Huh? Don't tell me they still haven't found even a quarter of them! Could it be because there was no genocide in Srebrenitsa?

Until Serbia faces reality, no one is going to support them in anything. That's sad.

What reality? Facing up to a fictional genocide, such as Srebrenitsa? What is sad is the policy of double standards and the exclusion of any possibility that a) Serbs, too, were victims and that b) most of what you know about Bosnia probably has no basis in reality

I bet you had no idea that during a battle in the central Bosnian town of Vitez, for example, the local Vitez detachment of the HVO (Bosnian Croat Forces) were securing the right flank of a Bosnian Serb Army unit, since the latter were slightly short on troops and needed to retreat? [Globus, Croatian weekly magazine, 5 Dec 2005.]

Or that in the Bosnian northwest, the Tsazin Muslims (led by Fikret Abdich) almost exclusively sided with the BSA against other Muslims. The first mistake a newbie to the Wars of Yugoslav Succession makes is pigeonholing the conflict. You cannot simplify it by framing it into a "Serb-Croat-Muslim" context. Alliances and interests on the ground often disregarded the ethnic boundaries. But telling it like it was would've been a hard sell - hence the watering down for the gullible masses who cannot process anything involving more than 3 actors and taking longer than 10 seconds to explain.

Enter Rudder & Finn, Hill & Knowlton and others. The Croats and Muslims paid up; the Serbs did not. This is what for all intents and purposes determined both the fate of the Serbs and the official history of the region.

So, what YOU know is more likely than not based on the PR firms' version of the War.

57 posted on 02/27/2006 9:25:12 PM PST by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ)
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To: Banat

The reality is the Albanian extremist are the instigators and if they get independence will continue the fight in South Presevo and Western Macedonia.

The Muslims were the ones creating the most problems in Bosnia and Croatia. Many of the Massacres, ie Srebrenica and Racak were greatly exaggerated.....and fabricated.

The Serb attrocities were committed by paramilitarities as did the KLA murdered most all residents of villages to include the animals......Mass graves are the biggest hoax of all...........Some did exist, but the actual perps is the big question.


66 posted on 02/27/2006 11:08:07 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Banat
Very true. Just as the Lebanon Civil War was not just a "Christian vs. Muslim" affair (as portrayed by the lazy MSM), there was an ideological element (Left vs. Right) and an ethnic element to the conflict (Lebanese vs. Palestinian). Sometimes Christians and Muslims fought each other, sometimes they formed ad hoc alliances to fight against other common enemies. The Bosnian War has many of those same elements, not hard to figure, since both regions were brought forth from the ruins of the same Ottoman Empire.
106 posted on 03/01/2006 4:06:16 PM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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