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To: zagor-te-nej
That's good for 1910.

Let's look at a little more recent numbers:

Ethnic groups: Serb 37.1%, Bosniak 48%, Croat 14.3%, other 0.6% (2000)

Religions: Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14%

Background: Bosnia and Herzegovina's declaration of sovereignty in October 1991, was followed by a declaration of independence from the former Yugoslavia on 3 March 1992 after a referendum boycotted by ethnic Serbs. The Bosnian Serbs - supported by neighboring Serbia and Montenegro - responded with armed resistance aimed at partitioning the republic along ethnic lines and joining Serb-held areas to form a "Greater Serbia." In March 1994, Bosniaks and Croats reduced the number of warring factions from three to two by signing an agreement creating a joint Bosniak/Croat Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina. On 21 November 1995, in Dayton, Ohio, the warring parties initialed a peace agreement that brought to a halt three years of interethnic civil strife (the final agreement was signed in Paris on 14 December 1995). The Dayton Peace Accords retained Bosnia and Herzegovina's international boundaries and created a joint multi-ethnic and democratic government charged with conducting foreign, diplomatic, and fiscal policy. Also recognized was a second tier of government comprised of two entities roughly equal in size: the Bosniak/Croat Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and the Bosnian Serb-led Republika Srpska (RS). The Federation and RS governments were charged with overseeing most government functions. The Office of the High Representative (OHR) was established to oversee the implementation of the civilian aspects of the agreement. In 1995-96, a NATO-led international peacekeeping force (IFOR) of 60,000 troops served in Bosnia to implement and monitor the military aspects of the agreement. IFOR was succeeded by a smaller, NATO-led Stabilization Force (SFOR) whose mission was to deter renewed hostilities. European Union peacekeeping troops (EUFOR) replaced SFOR in December 2004; their mission is to maintain peace and stability throughout the country.

Source: CIA World Fact Book

 

Now if you'd like to speak to the history, we can talk about the history. Would you like to talk about the Byzantine-era history, the time of an independent kingdom of Bosnia, the Ottoman ages, the decades under Austria-Hungary, or what?

51 posted on 02/27/2006 8:11:03 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; ...

For those of us in the US, we can only think how these legal precedents will play out when Aztlan makes it move.

Will the people of these United States stand in the same docket where the Serbs stand today and answer for Manifest Destiny or removing Saddam from Iraq?

The Serbs may not have always conducted themselves as we would prefer our friends to do, but they have always been at war with our enemies.


55 posted on 02/27/2006 8:27:35 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: markomalley
That's good for 1910.

Let's look at a little more recent numbers:

Ethnic groups: Serb 37.1%, Bosniak 48%, Croat 14.3%, other 0.6% (2000)

So according to the CIA factbook, as of 2000, Bosniaks were 48% of the population.

Could you look up the percent of Bosniaks right before the war in 1991, and put that up?

They say they were "genocided" so I want to see what percentage they were before the war and how far it has fallen to reach 48%.

Then we could calculate that the Serbs owe the Bosniaks this much for "genocide":

(Prewar Bosniak percentage - 48 (postwar percentage)) multiplied by $10 billion. Therefore you will have the Serbs pay the Bosniaks $10 billion for each percentage point of population they lost.

I think that would be fair - so could you do that calculation?

87 posted on 02/28/2006 3:48:24 PM PST by joan
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To: markomalley
Yes, let’s talk about history. It does not matter what time-period, or occupying force you want to choose. For most of its written history Bosnia was defined as a Serb land. From Roman Servitium (Serbinon, Serbinum, Seruitio, Servitii, Serbitium), present-day city of Gradiska in north of Republic of Srpska to censuses done by Ottoman Turks, Austria or Kingdom of Yugoslavia Serbs were only or majority of Bosnian population. First time ever muslim became majority in former Bosnia is after WWII. Care to venture a guess as to why and how that happened?

Bosnia as Serb land and Serb as majority of Bosnian population is point on which number of different and reliable sources agrees. Frankish historian, Byzantium Imperator, Roman pope, neighboring states, foreign powers ... - you name it - they all describe Bosnia as a Serbian state, populated by Serbs. Moreover, this is how Bosnians and their kings view themselves. Only ethnic or national name in the title of Stefan Tvrtko I is Serbs. He was crowned in Milesevo monastery were earthy remains of principal Serb saint - St. Sava - were buried. One of Tvrtko's predecessors, King Ostoja writes to Dubrovnik and promise to uphold and reaffirmed to their merchants "privileges given to you by my grandfathers - Serb kings". Herzegovina is Dukedom of St. Sava, and so on, and so forth.

As you can see, all this “aggression” nonsense or how Serbs invaded Bosnia is garbage talk designed to promote jihad, fulfill war aims of Bin Laden and his good pal Alija Izetbegovic and artificially create excuses for stealing what is in essence Serb private property.

Second point: CIA numbers you quoted are not reliable at all, these are just estimates. Nobody can tell you with certainty ethnic composition of Bosnia. Ten years after war stopped Bosniak muslim still refuse to organize census. Reason - census will bury all those fantasies and lies about hundreds of thousands dead muslim.

Third point: muslim-Croat referendum was illegal according to Bosnian constitution that was valid at that time. Serbs recognized muslim-Croat plan to finish what they tried to do 1941 and objected to becoming national minority in their own land - so secession was illegal.

Next time do your research – do not blindly cut and paste. That way maybe you will start understanding why Serbs refuse to live with those who slaughtered them.
100 posted on 02/28/2006 9:01:59 PM PST by zagor-te-nej (USS - United States of Serbia)
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